I am not going out on the limb with the good aliens…. (that is another topic)
What is important,… is the Fallen Angel SATAN…, and what effects
this time period of AI (eye)… which is what the machines want to match up with
HUMANS…. and this is what the Luciferians are trying to do with
implants in the blood and brain…(ie with 5G… and vacs graphite )
According to the bible history…. the book of Enoch describes the Giants, …
Noting that the book of Enoch is not found in the KJV, but, says there
were Giants in the land…
As far as the KJV, is concerned, the Fallen Angel is Lucifer, and Satan,
from the beginning, …

Giants, ok, enough skeletons have been discovered to say that species or those species existed.
Not a big deal, there have been many species of bipeds.

No argument there.

Aliens start our evelutionary path?Maybe.

Notice something about the religions, the common denominater, there are good gods and there are bad gods.

In our time the bad guy is Lucifer and the good guy is Jesus.
The core story is the same and the gods are always givin magical powers.

imo the gods are not the point, I think the stories are clues to something.

Most people as today, and looking at history, believe its a god, which one is determind by the time period and location of birth.

It doesnt matter where you are born, its always the correct god and religion.

The common denominaters are part of the clue.

Personally, I think we need to evolve more before we undertand more than we do now.
That is if collectivly, we havnt imagined it all anway.

Just an opinion of course. How could I know anything otherwise?

b………. you should have listened to the tape from Dean Henderson explaining
Giants..etc… and present day association with ruling families today….
.. Families, from the beginning , to present,
which are part of technology which have been around for a while….
Explain the pyramids in Egypt…..

Evolve more?………….
Key to the conversation,…. is,… Man can not be a GOD……..
The people in charge are trying to be LIKE GOD… via SATANIC Inspiration….
AI (eye)……. is wanting to plant your brain with a machine, of which they(little gods
can control, and you wind up being a Slave…… which is exactly, where they were
5000 yrs ago… Since the beginning….

I have read about giants. Related to “ruling families” is a new one on me.
Maybe, I wouldnt know but I have seen no conection from anything Ive seen.

Musk and the brain implants?
Maybe we become the “borg”.

From my understanding when species develop their technology and spirituality(for lack of a better term) at the same pace everything is hunky dorey.
When one gets too far ahead of the other trouble happens.

That could be where we are today, our technology is beyond our understanding of their consequences.

b………. I will give you a link to Dean Henderson… on the

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Excerpted from my book, Nephilim Crown 5G Apocalypse, Chapter 33: Nephilim Markets Fear Revolution
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Nephilim Crown 5G Apocalyse is an indictment of the computer revolution as simply the latest mechanism through which the royal bloodline families seek to control humanity. The roll out of their well-tested battlefield weapons system known as 5G represents the pinnacle in their use of electro-magnetic frequencies to literally remote control what these feudalists have for 8,000 years seen as their human herd. Since their intervention in Sumeria, these hybrid fallen angel Nephilim have usurped, steered and plundered all of Creation as self-appointed god/kings. The coming 5G apocalypse represents an opportunity for a great unveiling – the Greek meaning of “apocalypse” – of not only their nefarious 5G deception, but of the fraudulent Nephilim Crown itself. This book is written with the hope that it contributes to this great unveiling so that humanity will seize this moment not just to stop the 5G fourth industrial revolution of the Fourth Reich, but to emancipate itself from its Crown overlords.

Nenner……… two years ago…. said that year gold to $2500… did not happen…. 🙂
Just like at KWN….. jokers.j M. Oliver .. $2500… three years ago…. 🙂

SF,
You can’t get a private party to explore the ice wall. They won’t let you do that. Okay…?
Stop splitting stupid hairs for the sake of an argument.

And….there is a reason why they won’t let you explore…
Um, maybe like new resources?
New land? A whole lot more land than we are aware.
The space lie is all about control.

Chartster, I guess you havnt noticed.

I am not splitting hairs for the sake of argument, I am pointing out where you are missinformed.

You said nobody in the artic since……I have to look……the 40s, sorry, not right, 1997 .
And I dont even have to research, the anwsers are right there without delving into it.

Im afraid your going to need a stronger more logical confirmable story for me to think the earth is flat and an ice wall keep the water from falling into space.

I doubt there are aliens or angels living in the antartica as well, but hey, Ive never met one so what would I know?

None of that matters.
The fact remains, you can’t explore the ice wall.

The reasons why you can’t explore is where the fire is.
More land, resources and control.

Just think about commodity prices.
Gold prices. Land prices.
Right now they have caused limited resources and shortages.
And all with a fiat currency.

They keep you spinning on the ball.

Chartster……………… You need to Explain…. WHO THEY ARE….or who you think they are….

Chartster

There is no “icewall”
Antarctica is not an ice wall that surrounds a flat Earth.

Jerry?

“they” is the aliens 😉

They is the money changers.
Extra terrestrials = extra terrain.
You know, the other lands..?
I don’t believe in aliens from other planets that don’t exist.

My Great Grandmother told me when I was young.
“ Don’t believe a word they say about space and the moon landing. “
My brainwashed family thought she was nuts, but she knew the deal. And I knew she knew the deal back then too.

b……. Chartster, needs to answer the WHO….. which he did..”money changers”
do not confuse the aliens…. they are not the green little men…

Now , the group of money changers are the same families, which have
been screwing everyone for centuries…..
the blood line is explained by DEAN HENDERSON, if, you would read the info
provided… and it will help in explaining and tying things together
SCRIPT /Bible wise….

Ok the aliens are the moneychangers.

Im aware of the story. And the families involved. I dont know how giants fit in.

Maybe from Patagon? The Patagones or Patagonian giants were a race of giant humans rumoured to be living in Patagonia and described in early European accounts.

Didnt you say aliens are angels?

And why say aliens when you mean money changers?

No big deal.

Oh, I didnt get the story from a bible wise script.
The only thing I recall from the bible is Jesus throwing out the money changers.
Things might be different if people had listened to him.

b………… No the” money changers” …..are just PART of the “AI group” of so called aliens (which is what you want to call them) ….. One must be careful in using “aliens” for most think of little green men…
I pointed out above, the book by Dean Henderson… which also, Steve Quayle hints about….
The blood line of the families,.. comes as a result of giants , mixing with the daughters of man.
as Henderson explains. and is explained in the book of Enoch….and again referred to in KJV.
Really the little green men , are just a distraction …. to keep most in the dark…

FALLEN ANGEL… Lucifer ….
Many Christians believe the Devil was once a beautiful angel named Lucifer who defied God and fell from grace. This assumption that he is a fallen angel is often based the book of Isaiah in the Bible, which says, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
Lucifer……… wanted to be above GOD……

Jerry, aliens is not what I wanted to call them.
You said aliens were angels, then chartster said extra terestrials were money changers.
I think is how it went.
You threw giants into it along the way.

Ive heard the story, angels bread with humans, Nephalem.
Nephalem were giants? Maybe.
Check the Sumerian records to see if the Nephalim are connected to the Anunaki.

Following that story line would indicate that people/something from somewhere else had influence on humans.

Part of the story is dna was messed with so humans could mine gold for the “visitors”.
Dont think thats in Enoch tho, maybe, more likely the Sumarian tablets.

In any case maybe some day the story will be figured out conclusivly.

You mention Lucifer and God fight with one another, as I said erlier, the stories may not be exact but they rhyme.
The Sumerian records speak alot about the gods fighting.

Think maybe they were just another race more advanced technecly than ourselves?
or is it all made up to tell children at bedtime?
Somebody will figure it all out eventually.

b………… quote from Steve Quayle
“the Aliens are the created beings of Fallen Angels.”

OOTB Jerry
19 hours ago
AI……(not owl)………………. (quoted from steve quayle)

We now have a front row seat to the modern corruption of all flesh, just as in Genesis 6. This evil effort is coupled with an Alien Disclosure which will declare that they, the Aliens, are our creators. However, these efforts are a lie from the pit of Hell itself because, as you will find, the Aliens are the created beings of Fallen Angels.

b…………
The Hebrew word Nephilim is sometimes translated as “giants”, and sometimes as its literal meaning “the fallen ones”. Their origins are disputed. Some, including the author of the Book of Enoch, view them as offspring of fallen angels and humans. Others view them as offspring of the descendants of Seth and Cain.

What are the offspring of angels and humans?
In a number of texts these relations resulted in viable offspring: angel-human hybrids that came to be known as the Nephilim, Giborim, or giants.

I talk about flat earth to make people think. It’s not about convincing anyone. Just making you think about it is all good.
The moon landing lie.
The space station lie.
The other planets lie.
The spinning ball lie.
Got to wonder what it is that they are hiding.

And the indoctrination goes deep.
Knowing there is 8 inch drop per mile and looking out a window of a plane at 40,000 feet and seeing a flat earth, yet still believing it’s round is serious indoctrination.
Thinking water sticks to a round ball is also serious indoctrination.
It’s called sea “level” for a reason. It’s level.
It’s not sea rounding. 😏

You definately have a unique way of viewing reality Chartster.
It is interesting thats for sure.

Tough question Jerry… For discussion purposes, I might consider RFK Jr. to be not on the take.

Tommy………
Since, I do not really think RFKjr… is a politician in the strictest terms….
Not saying he is not political, … which runs in the family..
I would not say , or classify him as “on the Take”
I do think he would CLEAN HOUSE…. if, given a chance,… by his conversation, on just
how he would do it, as explained on HOWIE’s Show…..

sorry…”.keeps telling”…

I will also add…..
We know the sheeple needed to see the corruption first hand,,,,(according to THE PLAN)
hard to believe the sheeple are so slow… but,..we had a lot of guest speakers
here… which were just as slow… 🙂

Agree Jerry… Just by setting up the private email server, Hilly committed a crime, IMO… A personal email account with any non-gov service provider, could have been used to keep truly personal communications out of FOIA reach… so beyond any doubt, IMO, the case against Hilly and Co. is a slam dunk… i thought at the time that Trump may have taken the pressure off, so in return, they might take pressure off him and let him do his job without interference, but that failed completely… Mueller investigation, impeachment, etc.

Tommy….. thanks for the input and reply…..

Thanks Jerry… I will get to the vid later today.

Thanks Jerry… Webb has an overwhelming amount of information… very valuable, but time consuming to absorb… Need a concise summary of all the players he is following.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

Carlin was ignorant of HIS RIGHTS…..

Jerry
I understand you believe that (god givin rights) among other things.
I explained before, I see that and so many other things as “claims” not evidence or proof.

I think… that might come from the Spirit… of Truth….
which Man accepts…… willingly, and is given freely….

Jerry

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that was 1776, you think black people had/believed they had god givin rights?
Or aboriginals? or anyone that wasnt a white? males more rights than females of course.
What good was the belief? a delusion my friend.

When someone more powerul than yourself comes along,you have no rights.
god givin or otherwise.
imo that is a delusion.

As I said, until I find evidence and or proof its all just claims to me.

Dif thinking makes life interesting tho.

Sheeple surrendered their thinking and freedom…… to ungodly men….
At this time period, …You have and had the Constitution…
You were tricked into believing the Crown Corporation Act of 1871, which
stepped in and enslaved you with the FAKE CORPORATION IN DC….
From lack of knowledge, … my people parrish
Hosea 4:6
King James Version
6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

…”.you think black people had/believed they had god givin rights?”…..b asked….

Whites in some of the colonies…. were against slavery… (see below)

I hear a lot of blacks praising GOD…I do not see any blacks running around in chains…. except gold chains….today.
Blacks have been free for a long time… of course, they still have the slavemaster of the snap cards,
and the dems to give them some more bread… and keep them ignorant in the education system
Blacks are conned by their own kind,… just as whites are conned by their own kind.
Africa, and the black slave trade, was black on black crime… just like today… most shootings
are black on black.

In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, members of the Continental Congress sign the Declaration of Independence.

1776
In Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the Society of Friends, also known as the Quakers, forbids its members from holding slaves.

1776
Delaware prohibits the importation of African slaves.

1777
Vermont is the first of the thirteen colonies to abolish slavery and enfranchise all adult males.

1777
New York enfranchises all free propertied men regardless of color or prior servitude.

1778
Rhode Island forbids the removal of slaves from the state.

1778
Virginia prohibits the importation of slaves.

1780
Delaware makes it illegal to enslave imported Africans.

1780
Pennsylvania begins gradual emancipation.

1780
A freedom clause in the Massachusetts constitution is interpreted as an abolishment of slavery. Massachusetts enfranchises all men regardless of race.

None of that means there is such a thing as god givin rights.
I imagine your aware there were slave states in the north, part of the union.
Nothing changed for them until the imancipation proclimation.

Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri—all slave states—remained in the Union, although Kentucky and Missouri also had competing Confederate state governments.

What “god givin rights” were black rights in these states?

Delusion, illusian at best.

All men were not equal, that was simply a government lie, nothing unusual there, as are god givin rights. They dont exist as the government would be more than happy to explain should they want your land for example, or decide its your turn in the military ….try telling them you have rights, god givin or otherwise and see what happens.
God givin is illusion.
As I have said many times, claims, until I see proof or at least some evidence.

I notice you mention blacks praising god.
That has always amazed me, people are tortured, enslaved all around miss treated and then they drop their own beliefs/god and move to another god.

The way the human mind works is perplexing sometimes.

ok, there were some changes prior to the imancipation proclimation.

I agree mostly with Jerry… humans have GOD given rights… GOD gave you free will… You can choose to relinquish those rights… Someone or some alleged legal entity may attempt to steal those rights, but that is a crime against God, Humanity, and Civilization… If you relinquish these fundamental rights, you relinquish your soul.

Tommy…… that is a good summary…. thanks for the added stuff…
I posted a more detailed answer below….

I know you agree Tommy, you guys worship the same god, just as Bahi,Druze,christian,muslams and jews do.
Billions of people worship that god.

Call me a contrarian. 😉

I see no proof for the belief, what I do know, is when a person is told something under 7 years old it sticks with them all their life, hard to over come that, then when people hear the same thing over and over again often enuff they believe pretty much anything.

Both of those things are simply human, how the mind works.

Billions have been told from their birth of the existance of this god by their family and societies for thousands of years.

Obviously, your are going to believe it.

God givin rights??
Brits have 13,germans have 29,belgians have 25,swedes 6 originaly the americans had 10 but they messed up so had to amend?17? times and did slavery slip their minds? or was slavery ok?
sure was in their bible.

They dont sound too god givin to me or they would all be the same, sorry, they are man made.
Not god givin.

Besides moses had no witnesses coming down that mountain either, hmmm another big deal with no proof or evidence to support the claim.

What we did have is a bunch of uneducated people that believed anything they were told.
Remember, at the time it was gods that made the wind blow,lighting,thunder and everything else they had no idea about.

Course, Even if the comandments were from a god, anyone listen? sure not the jews with all their genocides including today. Doesnt look like they took their from god rules to seriously.
Or, maybe they know something?

Until I see evidence or proof that is verifiable I remain unconvinced.
But as I explained I do understand it.

This went to the wrong place so posting again, Im responding to Tommy.
This thread is just too ;long.

I understand what you’re saying SF… Some do not believe in God, and others have a non-conventional view of creation or the source of our existence… That’s why I added “Humanity and Civilization” as additional foundations for these rights… Many disciplines have postulates and axioms as part of their foundation… Civilization requires inalienable rights for human cooperation and progress… Enumeration of the inalienable rights involves human language and fallibility and can never be precise…

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed (>pisteuō). Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed (pisteuō)” (John 20:28¬29).

“Jerry, just for fun, which group of rights was givin by god?”…..b…you ask….
….. Answer….Freedom, equality, and dignity are bestowed on all by virtue of being human, made in the image of God. In Galatians, the Apostle Paul reminds us that these rights are not earned but divinely ordained.

Jerry, you just showed you can not identify which rights are god givin rights.
Simply saying they are divinely ordained or quoteing a bible verse says they are not god givin or you would know which ones they were.
You proved my point Jerry, there are no god givin rights, they are determined by people.

Bible verses dont change that.

Not a big deal, rights dont have to be divine to be valid, thats just law. Except our law is kinda corrupt.
So we have 1 right, Carlin is right, we have the right to right this way.

Jerry, did your post disapear, my answer did, a part of it posted but not all of it. strange.

b……… GOD must not like your answer…. 🙂
My words are written on the hearts of Man…
2 Corinthians 3:3; Ezekiel 11:19

2+Corinthians+3:3
I will put my laws into their minds,. andwrite them on their hearts,. and I will be their God,. and they shall be my people.

Inspired Men through the Spirit wrote the words….

There is a sense in which the Christian has no “rights” of his own, because he has surrendered his life to Christ. Christ “owns” the believer. “You are not your own; you were bought at a price” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).

This might be your ONLY RIGHT……………
Choose between good and evil…….
God has told us through His prophets that we are free to choose between good and evil. We may choose liberty and eternal life by following Jesus Christ. We are also free to choose captivity and death by following Satan.

OK Jerry,
you use bible verses to avoid the obvious again, that you can not identify which rights are god givin.

Nobody can identify them, thats because rights are NOT god givin, they are made by people.

Ya, I got it years ago, about 30?
I began looking at issues when I was about 10, normal age for most people.

I joined the army as a christian, they wouldnt allow me to be christian, I had to have a denomination, years later it got popular to call yourself christian instead of a denomination.

I always thought it interesting I joined as christian, the tho shall not kill kinda christian.
Funny, all the heroes that fought in wars to save the nations get to burn in hell for killing.
Christianity is conflicting on occasion.

I went to multiple chuches as there were many options where I grew up, Buhdist temple even looked into Voodoo and other thinkings.

In any case, once i found enuff info and realised enuff I no longer agree with christian thinking.

The god givin rights example is a good one, christians keep saying god givin but cant identify them and must find ways to justify, explain the claim etc etc

If there was god givin rights they would not require explanation, they would be obvious, the god would make them plain to see for all.

Good conversation in any case Jerry. thx.

Read my statement above…. your last comment….

This might be your ONLY RIGHT……………
Choose between good and evil…….
God has told us through His prophets that we are free to choose between good and evil. We may choose liberty and eternal life by following Jesus Christ. We are also free to choose captivity and death by following Satan.

Ditto…. on the good conversation….. thanks for all the replies…..

Lets agree to disagree, I say the only right you have is “right this way”.

🙂

…yes…I think he’s conducting a sick out….or post out….