Exactly Al, the Bible also says they want to deny everything including the one that sent him God the Father and Jesus. Nothing but lies out there. As you know.

HG, I, for one, will honor your request.

Thanks Al, and I only said that because I didn’t want any temporary interference with my message to Tony. Now that I’ve replied, anyone that wants to say anything is fine as long as it’s not the same people I’ve already had the discussion with regarding all these false doctrines. The interaction is healthy and it helps people decide what they want to do. That part is more than welcome it’s just the same old debates regarding the same old false doctrines. It’s just a nuisance and a disturbance. I try and keep myself from disturbing others with their concerns whether or not I agree with it, it’s the wrong action to make a nuisance of myself. I think it’s perfectly fine to make a comment here there but not to be harassing everyone. Certainly, God does not want us to be harassing others and I’m just posting stand-alone messages and if people are interested that’s fine and if they’re not, you know, that’s up to them. So the bottomline is, yes the debates are good and it’s a discovery process and then with the facts we can arrive at the truth. One fact I will always stand on is this and if anyone’s listening out there we can do nothing without God he sustains everything. Once God is done and the age of grace has come to an end, everyone that believed in the lies their life will go dark and they will face the eternal punishment that’s quoted in the Bible everywhere. This is not installing fear this is the truth.

As you are probablly aware, HG, I do and have agreed with you for a long time.

Al, we can’t help but agree unless we’re preaching another gospel like the Bible says. The Bible says let them be a cursed those who preach another gospel.

We’re going to vary a little bit in doctrine but we need to be practicing righteous and holiness we can’t be condoning sin God forbid. Also the Bible says they’re going to refuse to practice sound doctrine. I will not argue with a brother if things are slightly off as long as we’re not condoning sin and taking pleasure in unrighteousness. And God comes first in our lives.

Very few are practicing sound doctrine and their souls are in great peril unless they change they will stand at the great white throne of judgment and Jesus is going to say I never knew you ye that work iniquity. Terribly tragic beyond words.

“The whole world celebrates Easter…….”

You’re joking, of course; or clearly you haven’t traveled much.

Figuratively speaking because most of the world does and right now everyone here in America is celebrating it. The whole western world does. Christmas is a major celebration throughout the world and that was ordained by God. And celebration of Christ’s birthday. The living true God of the holy Bible and he sustains everything. We can’t do nothing without him.

HG, I personally always capitalize He and Him when referng to The Lord Jesus.

Al, yes you are so right and I don’t have an excuse however there’s just so much going on but I should always capitalize He and Him etc. when it comes to the Lord Jesus God. Thanks for correcting me on that. I’m so accustomed to everyone never capitalizing Jesus or God and if you say anything it’ll just cause a lot of problems so I never like to cause too much disruption however I like the fact that you’re alerting me because I want to be as correct as I can.
I need to remember to do that now because I’m so accustomed to just saying he with no capital H. Not very often however I need to remember. To be honest, I’m not even sure how many times I’ve done it. That’s why fellowship is important because we can learn from each other. As long as we’re all practicing sound doctrine. Otherwise, you can’t fellowship with false doctrines unless those that are doing this come to the truth. However, they want to change me though or the person that’s practicing sound doctrine it’s really bad in the Christian community. Everything from A to Z. Not just, unsound doctrine, very unsound doctrine.

Holy Grail…You must have great eye sight typing those long essays into the little box….A++….seriously🔆

“We have a society that hates God…..”

I dont know if thats really true, a person has to believe the god exists and be upset the god allows miserable things to happen to hate the god.
Most likely it would have to be something that affected the person themselves.

If that person is upset with bad things that would indicate the person is actually a good person.

Most people I know of dont “hate” a god, they simply dont believe in a god as they see no proof of existence.

I think if proof ever happened people would then believe.

I’m not trying to debate the existence or not of a god, simply that I dont see it logical that people would “hate” a god.

Something else HH, maybe your looking at a small segment of humanity, “god” is huge in europe,Russia,s.america etc.
In Briazil at the summit of Mount Corcovado, Rio de Janeiro christ the redeemer is being restored.
People dont do that stuff if its not important.

American christians are more christians for Israel, christians around the world are more christians for christ.

We are a long way off of these “end times” your worried about.

I forget whose prophecy that is(end of the world), its been a long time since I paid any attention to the bibles.

b, the creation is proof that God exists it’s indisputable and irrefutable. Just look at everything the tropical fish, the animal kingdom, the food supply that’s endless and different variety of food God created for us to enjoy. Just look at all the beauty of the world the tropical Islands the mountains it’s endless the creation and that didn’t happen by accident. GOD IS THE MASTER CREATOR AND DESIGNER. There’s no one like him and never will be.

b, without God sustaining everything we can do nothing. We take everything for granted and the very air we breathe comes from God you’re very heartbeat everything your limbs you move every drop of water every morsel of food is provided by God. Man can do nothing without God. Everything man builds and provides for the human race wouldn’t be possible unless God sustained everything.

America is spiritually bankrupt. They say they know God but it’s not the god of the holy Bible it’s another God that they follow and listen to and that’s the enemy of spiritual darkness.

Those that reject the holy commandment and do not love God will suffer for eternity in eternal punishment because we need to be 100% for him or were against him. There’s no in between.

Everything that God provides is just so wonderful and he’s wonderful beyond words all the different things that he created for us to enjoy and we’re destroying everything and we turned from the holy commandment and now we’re unthankful unholy just loving our sin. I’m not in that group in fact I love God with everything I have because he’s wonderful beyond words and then he went to the Cross to pay for a sins and mostly nobody cares about that either and they think that they can have a license to sin and that’s why Jesus went to the Cross so they can have a good time it’s not why Jesus went to the Cross. He went to the cross for those that made some mistakes and we have that Grace we don’t have unlimited hyper Grace to just do what we want.

b, we all need to come to the love of the truth or we’re going to suffer eternal punishment forever that includes me and I’m walking the talk so if you decide to go that route believing the lies of the world then if that’s what you want to do then just remain ignorant if that’s what you want. For those that want to remain unjust then let them remain unjust. That’s what they want. The reason why we have all these problems today is going to get progressively much much worse until man destroys everything. Because man decides to do what’s right in his own mind and that’s what everyone’s doing however at leads to eternal punishment. Every man, reaps what he sows. That’s why the Bible says the roads narrow and fewer find it because they don’t want to come to the truth. That’s living our lives in Holiness and righteousness and we do have Grace for the mistakes we make but we can’t abuse grace.
It’s up to you, b. Had to make my decision but if you’re decision as to walk away from the holy commandment and this includes many professing Christians that are just false and they have no love for the word of God at all.

First sentence HG in your response.
“the creation is proof that God exists it’s indisputable and irrefutable”

No its not HG, the god belief in a creation is taken on faith.
Faith = no evidence.
Sorry, not arguing, it just is what it is.

When you take “proof” from the christian bible, you gotta remember that Jews wrote the old testament, unless you accept it was found originally on the cuneiform tablets.
That could mean your not christian of course.

If it was the Jews ya gotta remember that those people want all the people to serve them, they believe that everyone else is a beast etc its ok to lie steal and murder them, Im simply saying you need to consider the source.

Those Jews are obviously Talmudic Jews and not all jews are Talmudic, but they are the people that wrote the books.

Just sayin.

Now maybe I’ll read the rest of ur post.

I couldnt really focus on the rest of your post HG.

Its obvious you have faith in your idea of a god.
Thats fine. I do hope it comforts you.

b, I’m sorry you feel that way. You have to make that decision and I had to make that decision as well. The Bible clearly tells us to let those that want to remain ignorant, let them remain ignorant and I can’t be of any further assistance from here. The Bible says only a fool in his heart, believes there’s no God. My reference is the New covenant and that’s the New testament has nothing to do with the Old testament because that is what we’re supposed to live by is the New testament. I heard a guy preaching the other day and he said that polygamy was acceptable to God that was in the Old testament however Jesus reset all the rules and you must be married or you will burn if you’re having sex outside of marriage.

People believe a lot of things b, and 98% of them are false I don’t know what the percentage its really bad. So you will have to take your beliefs and take your chances I don’t know what else to say. I listen to the God of the holy Bible and like the Bible says, LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR. I’ll leave it there and it’s your decision.

Thanks b, appreciate that from your last post. It does comfort me because I see the evidence and results in my own life. Then, I have eternal life in God’s Kingdom and this world is a fake. Comparatively to the kingdom of God that is just so much better it’s a zillion times and this is a garbage dump. Everyone will find out when things really get bad and then most likely it’ll be too late I don’t know so that’s up to everyone. I wouldn’t want to take my chances on this garbage dump everything’s fake including the money. That’s what people want to believe though that a system that is built to fail and it’s a house of cards on sand.

” the creation is proof that God exists it’s indisputable and irrefutable”

Even if that was indisputable, I would suggest, it says NOTHING about the form of “god”

CFS, the whole world celebrates Easter that’s the resurrection and of course Christmas is Jesus’s birthday. The whole world celebrates these holidays and there’s a reason for it. It’s the God of the holy Bible and everything that’s written in that Bible is holy and righteous. There’s only one God, and that’s the living God of the holy Bible. So, from here everyone has to believe what they want that’s why the Bible says it’s a narrow road and if you ever find it because they keep rejecting the truth those holidays weren’t by accident God made that part of our life celebrating those two holidays. No accident and the creation was not an accident either.

CORRECTION:
When I stated the earliest documented religion was from Sumer, I was referring to Western religions.
My knowledge of Eastern Religions is poor.
I suspect, however, some eastern religions date at least from 12,000 years ago.

Hello Larry, no, I didn’t use the box typing up that message because it was lost wasn’t sure how long I was going to be so I used a word document then copied it over. All my messages though I use the box except for ones I believe that are going to be long and then I always forget to copy them when I’m typing in the box so I end up losing them sometimes. Very rarely do I use a word document it’s just a much easier to type in the box and push send.

Good job Larry exposing the medical industry and Mike Adams is really a great resource. I won’t be taking the vaccine anytime soon unless I really have to. They’re gearing up for the mark of the beast and it’s going to be genocide in full swing worldwide. Society is really naive and ignorant to everything and they’re swallowing every lie that was ever told even when it comes to The Gospel. Most of the time they just don’t want it. However, they love everything else besides the true and living God of the holy Bible. The only one that can sustain everything.

” the whole world celebrates Easter …”

I would tend to believe thats an assumption.

b, just listen to the television set and walk in all the stores. It’s also a Federal holiday and considered a holiday with everyone. Christmas is the biggest holiday season of the year.

It’s indisputable and also irrefutable. It’s a world holiday Easter and it was set up that way because God of the holy Bible set it up because that’s what he wanted including Christmas.

Were you not recently talking about how we are all doomed because we dont follow your gods rules?

Now the whole world celebrates him?

I cant disagree that there are a whole lot of christians, yet you shouldnt assume everyone is.
Thats all I was sayin.

This is a very old argument b.

I personally prefer to let people believe what they wish and let my God be the final judge. I would bet, b, that you probably really feel the same way as I do.

Your comments are great, by the way!

The way that my Bible Study Brothers put it is if they are in a situation that they, because of their faith, disagree with the others, they simply tell the others so.

I, by the way, am starting to do the exact same thing and I feel good about it. God has been so good to me and to my family that I do not and will not let Him down!

Is Easter named after a pagan goddess?

But in English-speaking countries, and in Germany, Easter takes its name from a pagan goddess from Anglo-Saxon England who was described in a book by the eighth-century English monk Bede. “Eostre was a goddess of spring or renewal and that’s why her feast is attached to the vernal equinox,” Professor Cusack

b, “Goddess of Renewal” could fit into that without being sacreligous.

b, originally it was from the resurrection and that was a celebration but they turned it into the Easter Bunny and if everyone wants to be deceived that it’s something else and that’s up to them. Celebrated as you wish or don’t celebrate it all I don’t know what to say but it is a holiday and everyone has to celebrate it the way they know best and it was instituted by God and so was Christmas.

HG, a lot of people are going to miss out on The Good News because of their unbelief!

Sry HG

Pagan religions were around long before christianity.

The origin of easter was just recorded in the 8th century by Bede.
But celebrated for centuries before christianity came along.

If your interested, you could look into where the pieces of christianity actually come from.

Jesus was not the original in many cases, the “do unto others” for example comes from Confusious a few hundred years earlier.
Other parts come from Babylon, still others from the cuneiform tablets.

That doesnt mean what Jesus said was untrue, just that he wasnt the first to be telling people.

I have long thought it interesting most christians believe the jesus teaching were original.

1/2 of it is plagiarism buddy. plagiarism I tell ya. 😉
But it really doesnt matter.

Al, really miss out like you said and the latter is eternal punishment for rejecting the truth.

Like the Bible says if they want to remain ignorant, let them remain ignorant. The Bible says we can’t continue to throw holy things at people that don’t want them.

By the way, your remarks Al and comments are exceptional to b. Everything is very well explained and very high integrity. God must be very pleased. I have a long ways to go Al.

Heck we can go back into the depths of pre-history.

Even the Sphinx is pointing at the point of rising of the sun on the vernal equinox.

The earliest documented religion is, I believe, Sumerian. That pre-dates Egyptian religions and gave rise to many early Jewish religious beliefs, which in turn gave rise to Christianity.

Jesus Christ, lest you forget, was a Jew.

The only one that ever rose from the dead and returned to life and defeated death was Jesus Christ. Anyone who does not have the Lord Jesus as their savior is going to suffer eternal punishment for eternity. The children of disobedience will be punished with the wicked in the eternal flames forever. Israel is the apple of God’s eye. America was the second apple of God’s eye but looks like that’s going to be a thing of the past and God will defend Israel.

I have never heard that America was the “apple of God’s eye” Israel, yes!

Al, America’s been greatly blessed and has stood by Israel so it’s just been said that America has been the second Apple in God’s eyes. Although, there’s nothing biblical on it it’s just a fact that we are very blessed and Israel is very blessed as well.

Death, Burial , and Resurrection…..is not perverting anything….

Romans 16:25
“Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,”
AND JUST WHO……..was writing this…. humm

Pretty obvious that the author was St. Paul!

There’s no disagreement there at all. Death,burial and Resurrection. There’s a misunderstanding because I never said anything about it. Also, we’re discussing the New testament only that’s the New covenant and the Old testament still has prophecy that has not been fulfilled. Just want to reiterate that. These dispensational false doctrines that you’ve been discussing before you’re trying to maintain that certain books in the Bible were only to the Jews. The gentiles do not have anything to do with those books and we are not to pay any attention to it, doesn’t apply to us. Some of the scriptures you will not acknowledge either we won’t go into that right now however the books that you want to eliminate through this dispensational false doctrine are the books of Peter, James, and the book of Revelation. Maybe you’ve changed, I don’t know however all the books in the Bible and every scripture is to be taken seriously and it’s for correction and to come to righteousness.

As far as Romans 16:26 has nothing to do with the false dispensational doctrines however here’s the following:

The first clause of this verse goes with the last clause of the preceding “mystery,” which before was kept secret, but now has been “made manifest.” The rest of the verse all hangs together: “this mystery, through the help of the corroboration which it derives from the prophets of the Old Testament, has, by God’s command to us, the Apostles, been made known

From an educational statndpoint, I appreciate your Biblical input, HG, I am far from an expert on The Old Testament, but I do know my way around The New Testament pretty well. I have been communicating with Jerry for a very long time and I hate to see the two of you argue because I have never known him to be anything but a decent human being

Oh, Brother…… All I can say…..you are somewhat confused…..
ALL Scripture……humm

“According to MY GOSPEL”…….hummm. and what was that…

I would assume that by “MY GOSPEL” you mean the Bible.

Jerry, it’s not your gospel it’s the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is not the gospel of Jerry.

You keep harassing me and you won’t come to the love of the truth.

Jerry, if you want to remain ignorant, the Bible says let them remain ignorant you’re going to have to go your own way. False dispensational doctrines are false and their lies. That’s what you’re going to maintain and believe, we have nothing further to discuss because I’m not going to tolerate these false doctrines. It’s an abominable act leading people to eternal punishment.

HG, I personally find it difficult to believe that Jerry would disagree with you first sentence.

GH…..
There ya go again…….TWISTING what I just printed……
“MY” is what Paul said, …..

CLUELESS…………is all I can say…..

Al, there could be a misunderstanding however the discussion has been the false doctrine of dispensational lies and this once saved always saved false doctrine that sending people to eternal punishment we do not have a license to sin. This has been a discussion from the very beginning and they use these dispensational false doctrines to eliminate books from the Bible and then they conveniently make a case that they can live however they want. Might be some kind of misunderstanding I don’t know I’m trying to communicate all these things and we don’t have a license to sin. Anyone that is condoning sin I rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ because the Bible doesn’t teach that at all we can’t just do what we want the children of disobedience will suffer with all the unbelievers in eternal punishment.

This has been the discussion that we just can’t take pleasure in unrighteousness and there’s many messages regarding this and Jerry never says anything regarding that he is just acts like we have a license to sin so I don’t know. These false dispensational doctrines he wants to remove and eliminate books from the Bible. Those are false doctrines and like the the Bible says their false doctrines of demons and devils. I rebuke them.

HEY CLUELESS………….I never said half the stuff, you have made up….

Jerry, I told you to read to 2Peter2 and The book of Revelation. We had a long discussion on last weekend’s board and you told me that the book of Peter was to the Jews and you went into all this dispensational doctrines and you’re trying to now convince me that nothing was ever said by you with this.

You even got real nasty with me on this board and said I need a revelation when I told you to read the book of Revelation.

Anyway, all the proof is on last weekend’s board and you’re using these dispensational lies to eliminate books from the Bible and you don’t like the book of Revelation apparently you wouldn’t be so insulting God sees everything you’re doing anyway.

So if you want all you have to say is I agree there’s no license to sin and we are not allowed to be the children of disobedience that’s sends us to eternal punishment but you never say anything. The false dispensational doctrines are telling me that you want to remove books from the Bible that’s what this is all about. That’s up to you and you can live your life any way you want I don’t know how you live it but I’m just saying there’s no license to sin so we can close the discussion if you want to agree but I’m not going along with this false doctrine and of the once saved always saved doctrine of demon and devils.

Let’s Face it……….You have no clue…..

What is the Rapture……humm

Jerry, here you go again with that comment that has no value or merit. All you said, is I have no clue what kind of response is that. You don’t have any integrity because you can’t give me a proper response and you can’t even explain yourself at all. If you were on the board of a director’s and you told everyone at the meeting they have no clue and there’s no explanation it’s embarrassing for anyone, they would kick you off the board. I can’t talk to you anymore Jerry do what you want I’m done with this conversation. You can’t explain yourself or give any reason for anything. Because you’re stonewalling and it’s a lie, that’s why

I provided you this…….Which you negate…..End of conversation…..
On April 4, 2021 at 7:20 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
Rightly Dividing The Word…
….for educational purposes only…..for the Time we are living in…NOW.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/larkin/dt/05.cfm

Jerry, it just goes over a lot of dispensational times in history however you may want to explain everything because this guy has charts in there and everything else. God is not the author of confusion. Satan is the author of confusion and that’s what this article is trying to do and the Gospel of Jesus Christ is all the books in the Bible and every scripture and rightly dividing the word of Truth. Taking it all in so I don’t know what this is all about. There’s nothing real complicated about the New testament at all. A 5-year-old could understand it especially some of the books they’re very easy to understand.

Do you read the books of Peter, James and the book of Revelation ?? Do you study these books and I would like to know your comment on this. I study these books and read them all the time. These are some of the best scriptures in the Bible and they’re all important but these books complete our faith.

Jerry, you need to be rebuked and admonished for spreading lies. You insist on it and you can look it up in Titus. Rebuke them strongly their mouths must be stopped. Also other scriptures saying we need to correct approve and rebuke. Actually, I’m just being firm with you and realistic.

You don’t want to be corrected, then your just going to continue in those lies. Never coming to know the love of the truth ? If you’re spreading a false doctrine I have every right to say something. I don’t want to see anyone get deceived and I’m not going to follow it so don’t even post it.

HG…….As I said before………You are not going to rebuke anybody….
You are OUT OF CONTROL……..

Jerry, I’m rebuking you right now for those dispensational false doctrines and lies. I have the power of God to rebuke you in Titus and there’s another scripture that says we need to correct ,approve and rebuke.

God approves it because he doesn’t want the Gospel being perverted. That’s what you’re doing Jerry and I really don’t owe you any apologies on this because you keep doing it.

Titus……..
10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

AND who are the…….”CIRCUMCISION.”…..referred to in TITUS……hummm
the would be the JEWS….

Jerry, Titus 1:13

The witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

There’s also another scripture Jerry to correct, approve and rebuke. You can Google it and look it up for yourself or anyone else I’m not going to post scriptures here all day it’s in the Bible.

I’m rebuking you and there’s not much you can do about it right now because of your false dispensational doctrine lies. You’re spreading lies and you must be rebuked that’s all. God approves of it you’re perverting the Gospel.

Either change and start practicing sound doctrine or I’m just going to rebuke you. Sorry but that’s the way it goes if you’re going to be spreading lies.

There’s different levels of eternal punishment and for someone spreading lies like that it’s going to be very severe. So I’m just telling you that’s what the Bible says there’s different levels and if you’re going to be teaching the punishment is very severe if you’re spreading lies.

Jerry, was this to the Jews too are you trying to twist everything and pervert it. Anything you say Jerry is going to be proved against you I have all the scriptures I can post a lot of them completely nullifying all your arguments and proven you to be false with all your dispensational lies. Can you read below because all scriptures are for teaching you’re perverting the Gospel and you need to be rebuked.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

CLEARLY……..YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO >>>>> RIGHTLY DIVIDE…..

Jerry, that’s all you have to tell me I do not know how to rightly divide the word clearly I do not know ? What, you can’t explain anything. Your message completely irrelevant because there’s no explanation. Your message has no value whatsoever or merit. Please, if you don’t have the time and patience to explain yourself in an intelligent manner you have no business in this conversation. Your dispensational false doctrines are what they are their false doctrines and you can’t explain yourself. Either learn how to communicate or just please don’t message me anymore this is just non-productive and you’re wasting your own time and mine. There’s no use entering a discussion if you just don’t have the time or patience to type. Please, Jerry called a day and let’s just say good night okay I’m done with it I want to close this conversation permanently you’re just out to be right just to be right and you’re wrong these are false doctrines. Very deceptive and you insist on it with no explanation.

I don’t completely understand the discussion between HG and Jerry, so I am simply staying out of it.

Titus 3:9 says to “avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law (Scripture); for they are unprofitable and useless”. They are unprofitable and useless because more than likely we will never convince the other person of our(your) beliefs

Jerry, I agree avoid foolish disputes. However, false dispensational lies are major difference in doctrine. You actually disregarding books in the Bible and claiming they were just to the Jews those are false dispensational doctrines and lies.

So, until you come out of those false doctrines and endure sound doctrine and stop disregarding scriptures that I’ve been telling you regarding righteousness and holiness is the false gospel. Again, all the books in the Bible and every scripture is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and nothing to be added or subtracted.

It’s a major difference when you start ignoring and glossing over scriptures and claiming certain books were to the Jews and they don’t apply to us the gentiles.

When you start practicing sound doctrine and there’s a very little variance that happens but you can’t have books being eliminated out of the Bible and scriptures being rejected because it’s not convenient for your lifestyle that’s why this is taking place because that’s why people do this.

Can’t condone sin and we can’t take pleasure unrighteousness using a real liberal hyper grace to live how we want. That’s what’s being done removing the books and the scriptures and everything else to conveniently condone a lifestyle that is going to send people to eternal punishment including myself.

That’s a big difference in doctrine. So when you come out of that and you come to sound doctrine then you can let me know but until then it’s going to be rebuked any unsound doctrine and dispensational false doctrines and lies. Those lies are sending people to hell and it’s being rebuked because it’s an abominable act.

There is no lie…….in the Dispensation of Grace…..

Of course, there is no lie in the Despensation of Grace. I have never read anything from anyone here like that. Have you? If you have, please point it out to me.

Attacking and devouring the believes is NOT GOOD………
Correction is good, but, Do not think of yourself higher than you should,
For ALL have sinned and fallen short.

Of course, “All ave sinned and falen short”!

As is stressed in Romans 3

You’re correct, there’s no lie in dispensation of grace I never mention that whatsoever. However, we can’t continue in willful habitual transgressions on a regular basis taking pleasure in unrighteousness and use grace that it might be abound.

False dispensational doctrines want to remove anything to do with a professing believer that they are not held accountable for sin and that grace covers everything. Sinful lifestyles whereby someone just is taking pleasure in unrighteousness all the time and it’s all a license to sin. Addicted to willful transgressions strongholds in their life and continue in this habitual lifestyle of sin. It’s a worker of an iniquity. Jesus will say I never knew you, ye that work iniquity.

2Thessalonians 3:14
And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.

2Timothy 4:12

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine

If you have changed and you agree that we can’t be just taking pleasure in unrighteousness without consequences of suffering eternal punishment forever, we can drop this whole discussion. We have all sinned and fallen short however there’s a big difference in just being arrogant and belligerent and doing what we want. Using grace that it might be abound.

The false dispensational doctrines I had every right to rebuke you for that and there was no ungodly sinful attacks against you whatsoever. See the scriptures below. God approves if you’re condoning sin. If you changed, then there’s no point in discussing this any further.
False dispensational doctrines want to eliminate the scriptures that condemn sin. Besides, we can’t eliminate any books or scriptures from the Bible everything must be studied and used for correction every single book and every single scripture in the New testament.

It is pretty obvious to me that Paul states numerous times in The New Testament that we are all sinners and can only get right with God through personal confession. Acts, Romans, etc.

I’ve been referring to this once saved always saved false doctrine. They dispensational lies and false doctrines to accommodate a lifestyle of habitual willful transgressions and taking pleasure in unrighteousness all the time. We don’t have a license to sin and I rebuke it in the name of Jesus Christ. Anyone that agrees with that false doctrine is a wolf and a false believer. This is been a discussion and it hasn’t changed.

Unfortunately, CLUELESS, ….you have called me a liar,…..when I only
quoted the scriptures……You have made up , what you think I said.

Jerry, the discussion was on last weekend’s board and you were condoning sin and you were using dispensational false doctrines and lies to eliminate the books from the Bible that discuss taking pleasure in unrighteousness. You even rejected the fact that in Jude it says it they have turned the grace of God into lasciviousness. It meant two fold that we turned the grace of God into lasciviousness and they deny God as well. You said it only meant one thing and that was they denied God only.

Everything was discussed on last weekend’s board and even in here you’re not saying anything about condoning a license to sin and your supporting it with all these debates it’s unnecessary if you just would say that you don’t support this license to sin once saved always saved false doctrine of demons and devils.

However you don’t and you keep pushing this hyper grace doctrine. If we continue in sin all the time we don’t have grace’s abundantly abound living a sinful lifestyle. God forbid

Clueless…….”Condoning sin”………you make up stuff as you see fit…..

Jerry, everything is on last weekend’s board we got in a heated discussion and you were quoting all the scriptures that can condoms a sinful lifestyle and leaving out all the other scriptures and the other books. The scriptures that are completely against taking pleasure in unrighteousness and using grace liberally like it’s abound.

I told you we don’t have a license to sin and you came back with all these other scriptures. Leaving out all the ones that are telling us we can’t just go on sinning in a sinful lifestyle as a Bible teaches. Here’s your post below and you sure are deceptive. All your Cherry picked scriptures.

On March 29, 2021 at 3:08 pm,
OOTB Jerry says:
Romans 3:23…..For all have sinned…..
Romans 8:1……There is therefore now no condemation to them which are in Christ Jesus
Romans 8:23 … And we know that all things work together for good..
Romans 10:9….That if thous shall confess with they mouth….
Galathians 5:1 ..Sand fast therefore in the Liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free.

Since YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE…….
and PAUL Message …..which is what we were discussing,
and Like to twist and turn the conversation to meet your view.
Those are scripture….DO NOT ADD NOR SUBTRACT…..

Jerry, I do believe in the dispensation of grace. However, I don’t believe in a false doctrine that we can continue in sin and grace is abound unlimited. We can’t abuse grace as a Bible teaches. Please explain yourself in this area ?

I’ll ask you a question now, what’s your doctrine on grace is it unlimited and do we have a license to sin ??? Please, be very specific because this is the area that we’re having problems in.

We’re supposed to as the Bible teaches not take pleasure in unrighteousness we’re supposed to be perfect like our Father in heaven there are scriptures everywhere regarding habitual sin and transgressions so I want to know exactly what you believe.