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Manipulation? You bet, says John Embry!

Big Al
April 17, 2012

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    Apr 17, 2012 17:27 AM
      Apr 17, 2012 17:39 AM

      Many thanks for the link, Clay!

      Big Al

      Apr 17, 2012 17:25 PM

      Hi Clay,
      Let me just add my complete agreement with the value of Chris Martenson. He is very smart and articulate. I may not agree with all of his forward looking prognostications, but overall his work is excellent, me thinks. Definately worth our time. Thanks much.

    Apr 17, 2012 17:38 AM

    That’s a great article too, Clay! Thanks for posting it for everyone! But I think there could be a little bit more added to it, but he gets to the real heart of the matter.

    Thanks Clay

      Apr 17, 2012 17:40 AM

      Hi Mark A,

      As promised earlier, I will be doing more interviews with both John and Eric.

      This is a very important subject and they are certainly as knowledgeable as anyone on it!

      Best,

      Big Al

        Apr 17, 2012 17:45 PM

        Thanks Big guy!

          Apr 18, 2012 18:48 AM

          You my friend, are definitely welcome!

          Big Al from Arizona

      Apr 17, 2012 17:57 AM

      Ditto that…excellent post – Clay
      Marc

      Aug 25, 2012 25:53 AM

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    Apr 17, 2012 17:38 AM

    Great segment, Al and John! It is good Al, that you keeping listeners on track and reminding them why they should invest in gold and silver.

    Thank you.

      Apr 17, 2012 17:39 AM

      I am definitely in that camp Nick!

      Big Al

    Apr 17, 2012 17:24 AM

    “MANIPULATION”……WOW….What a great tool for the powers that be. They now manipulate everything. Jobless figures…..Inflation figures…..The markets…..Whole countries, to start wars,…….Our everyday lives, have i covered everything ? have i left anything out ?………..As far as gold & silver goes that will be manipulated until the dollar collapses, & that might not be that far down the road. Look what’s happening around the world, more & more countries are trading amongst themselves using their own currencies , because they are fed-up , been manipulated ( its that word again ) by U.S & its dollar. Be prepared take care of those around you………because our corrupt governments wont. PS i see J P MORGAN is getting ready to set up a ..COPPER ETF.

      Apr 17, 2012 17:43 AM

      Hey Irish,
      Maybe we can push for Guinness to be the next world reserve currency? A form of exchange, coupled with fun and frivolity!
      Marc

      Apr 17, 2012 17:58 AM

      Welcome back IRISH…..
      JPM….wants to corner the copper market,,, since, the us mint is not going to have
      any copper coins…maybe, they are getting all the old copper coins at twice there
      value, from the govt. for free…..

      Apr 18, 2012 18:49 AM

      As always, Mr. Irish, a great comment from you. Many thanks!

      The Sheriff

    Apr 17, 2012 17:31 AM

    WOW! just look at the “V” shaped action in the gold price today! Dropped to $1635 and rallied up to $1655 in no time! THAT is some strong buying there. Silver is creeping up too. Very interesting to see what unfolds this week.

      Apr 17, 2012 17:45 AM

      Yep, Mark A…..great call. The floor has really been set. I think the shorts can’t push it down any more at 1650 G and 31.50 S. Now it is time to wait be patient – “like a snake in the weeds ready to strike”!
      Marc

      Apr 17, 2012 17:27 PM

      What does the COT look like today…..?might be the answer….

        Aug 25, 2012 25:58 PM

        I think the two men with Joseph and Hyrum were John Taylor and Willard Richards, who later served in the First Presidency. Willard does kind of sound like Wilford, thoguh.

    Apr 17, 2012 17:47 AM

    Al: If you could through your marvelous connections, find out where and how the Eastern and Non OECD nations are taking gold away from the Western Nations. I have read and heard in past that most of the physical bullion taken by China from the West is taken out of the LME in London. Reports suggest this gold was in the past, several years ago, consisting of London Good bars which are distinctive in that they look like short bread pans. More recent bars reportedly being loaded onto planes and heading for China consist of rectangular bricks.

    Traditionally from what I have read, the London Good Bars normally traded in the LME were always angular gold bricks of assay guaranteed fineness shaped kind of like bread pans, whereas the square rectangular brick like bullion bars are of variable fineness normally stacked in the American vaults like Fort Knox, West Point and under the New York Fed building.

    You can easily guess where my question is going. Thanks.

      Apr 17, 2012 17:39 AM

      CLAY……Irish and I , covered that 3 weeks ago, as a comedy,
      there are some facts available , that if you do some research, you will
      see the bars , may, not be solid gold…….tungston, to be exact,
      and the shipment from ft. knox, in the 60’s and 70′ , are the trails
      that lead to this discover,,,,,there are some articals covering this
      a couple years back…..hope this only adds to some of your points….

        Apr 17, 2012 17:46 PM

        Jerry: Thanks. Now that you mention it, I do remember something about gold plated tungsten bars ending up in some Hong Kong vault, traced I believe from London. That puts a whole new dimension on re-hypothication, London, the origin of the entire modern monetary nightmare.

          Apr 17, 2012 17:50 PM

          Hi Clay, you guys must have seen the movie 007 Goldfinger it was filmed at Fort Knox and inside the vault, this is what I know. If the gold bars pull from the center its rather pure gold, if from the edges its got impurities in it. I`ve seen some real crap that some suckers said were gold dore bars. I remember a story about Spain dispatching some guy to go to the new world, it took him 2 years to finally return to Spain, when the queen heard of it, went to see the captain of the ship, and lo and behold the ship was decked out with metal all over the ship. Half the crew had died by the time they had gotten back to Spain, but it wasn`t gold, but iron pyrite. I`ve met some real dumb dumbs, my what you could sell today.

            Apr 17, 2012 17:17 PM

            D B…..I think all the gold is gone, and just like all the silver is gone,
            there is not a physical audit of the gold ,,only, cpa varification of someone
            else’s numbers….
            I think, because no one else sides with ron paul on the audit , the rest of the
            crooks in washington already know the details and are afraid to speak up for
            fear.of death , politically or physically.

            Apr 18, 2012 18:04 AM

            Refrigerators to Eskimos Denis!

            BigAl

          Apr 18, 2012 18:58 AM

          It sure does, Clay, it sure does!

          Big Al

      Apr 18, 2012 18:52 AM

      Yes I can Clay.

      The first half of the show this weekend will be dealing with manipulation, etc. I bring up this question.

      Best,

      Big Al

    Apr 17, 2012 17:27 AM

    HAVE A SAFE FLIGHT….

      Apr 18, 2012 18:00 AM

      Thanks In the Box,

      Actually a very pleasant flight yesterday. As usual, a bit crowded, but I can sleep on airplanes so I am really lucky!

      Big All

    Tex
    Apr 17, 2012 17:52 PM

    If you have a chance, ask John how the Sprott Capital Fund L.P. went from being named “Fund of the Year” at the 2010 AR to its current state…and if it will ever recover….

      Apr 18, 2012 18:01 AM

      Okay Tex, I will.

      Big All

    Apr 17, 2012 17:09 PM

    Morgan prepares to rig copper market with new ETF
    Submitted by cpowell on Mon, 2012-04-16 12:12. Section: Daily Dispatches
    JP Morgan Lodges Copper ETF Filing with NYSE

    By Melanie Burton and Chris Kelly
    Reuters
    Friday, April 13, 2012

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/13/copper-etf-idUSL6E8FD2MB201204

      Apr 17, 2012 17:55 PM

      HEY IRISH, read my above post….we already said that, who need these guys from the
      daily dispatch…, you and I already figured that out…maybe we could front run these articals, and charge big AL,
      maybe you and I should start our own
      DAILY POST….

        Apr 17, 2012 17:03 PM

        hey, Irish, I was thinking(which is dangerous) that these guys at the daily dispatch, used our material
        to write their artical….how else, did they get the insightful knowledge of the
        experts?

          Apr 17, 2012 17:15 PM

          HELLO JERRY….I was trying to think of an answer, till i realised it could also be dangerous for me, to think so i wont bother.

            Apr 17, 2012 17:22 PM

            but, that is what makes this site so wonderful….your thinking…..
            after , all, you do get a 5 hour head start, being closer to GMT…..

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    Apr 17, 2012 17:27 PM

    Hi Al again a good subject to discuss on today and week-end show. Ask about all the paper ETF`s on the precious metals and if they can influence this downward spiraling on the price of the metals. It has to be something that`s keeping gold, silver down when ah hell is in the world, in every country there is distress, unemployment, riots, wars. Gold/silver & PGM`s should be sky-rocketing in price to the moon.

      Apr 18, 2012 18:06 AM

      Okay Denis, I will.

      Big Al

    Apr 17, 2012 17:28 PM

    Al.

    I know I’ve heard some of the info before, but I could still really use a refresher on how to take delivery of shares bought on the stock market. I don`t trust these intermediary anymore, I want the ownership paper of stocks I buy in my hands, not some third party that can decide anyday to use it for their own purposes. This is of no interest to day trader, obviously. Anyway, another aspect you will discover in “Tragedy and Hope” is how control of the commodities market was sought and obtain by the elite prior to the great depression. The same is happening now, those going long should probably consider this as well.

    Of course, buying low, selling high is desirable:)

      Apr 18, 2012 18:09 AM

      Morning MissiveDuTexas,

      All you have to do is work with a brokerage firm that provides this service. Not anymore complicated than that!

      By the way, the four firms that I deal with cause me absolutely no concern so I do not bother with delivery.

      Big Al

        Apr 18, 2012 18:14 AM

        I have to agree with you, Al, about delivery. I took many partial positions in certificate form in 2007. After the once-in-a-lifetime events of 2008, I began to deposit the shares back into the accounts. For those who still want to hold certificates, it is probably best to hold no more than half of each position this way since a quick sale would not be possible, should the need to sell arise.

    Apr 17, 2012 17:40 PM

    If you look at a 12 year historical Gold chart, you see that the manipulation is not working all well well.

      Apr 18, 2012 18:11 AM

      Morning Jed,

      Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea has to agree with you.

      I believe that the question deals with the degree of manipulation.

      Big Al from Sunny Phoenix

    Reo
    Apr 17, 2012 17:20 PM

    Sell in May and go away ..followed by summer doldrums…Your continual repetetive talk about…Hey starting to Rally…oh down again..must be manipulated.

    I`ll say it again…Gold and silver going nowhere until after the summer ends and then again it depends on the elections.. I won`t be buying aything until sometime in july.

      Apr 18, 2012 18:12 AM

      Morning Reo,

      What makes this subject really interesting to me are all of the various opinions!

      Big Al

      Apr 18, 2012 18:04 AM

      “Sell in May, go away, come back after Labor Day” (for the HUI) would have only worked with any degree of certainty about half the time (’02, ’06, ’08, and ’09). It would have failed miserably in ’03, ’04, ’05, and ’11. It could have been okay in ’01, ’07, and ’10. For gold bullion, the practice has been even more questionable.
      Your intention to buy in July makes WAY MORE sense. However, given the depth and timing of the current correction, I am very skeptical that we will see any selling at all this summer. Those who might sell probably already have. Based on the CCI (20) and the Wm%R (14), on the monthly chart, the HUI has never been this oversold during the entire bull market. We could see a powerful rise straight through the summer, just like in 2003. That rise lasted for 8 months yielding a 100% rise. Such a rally would suit the planners very well. Far fewer people would notice it with all the fun and distractions of the summer months.
      Even the pros are out of this market.
      http://www.321gold.com/editorials/mcclellan/mcclellan041812.html

    Apr 17, 2012 17:22 PM

    Why would you invest in something that is manipulated?
    Answer: to enjoy the ramifications of the manipulation.

      Apr 18, 2012 18:14 AM

      Morning Dennis,

      I have posed this question to both Murph and John (yesterday to John) and their answers were both the same, “Huge explosion upward in price when it is stopped.”

      I guess that is as good as any.

      Big Al

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