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Two sides of The Syrian Gas Story

Big Al
April 28, 2018

Big Al says “My question is really simple: “who is speaking the truth  regarding the very recent situation regarding the usage of poison gas in Syria to justify the U.S. launch of missiles. Isn’t it freighting  not to be sure of the truth’?

Participants Speak At OPCW Briefing

Russian officials brought fifteen people to The Hague from the city of Douma, Syria, said to have been present during the alleged April 7 chemical attack – including  11-year-old Hassan Diab, who was seen in a widely-distributed video taken by the controversian NGO organization known as the “White Helmets,” who filmed themselves giving Diab “emergency treatment” after the alleged incident.

“We were at the basement and we heard people shouting that we needed to go to a hospital. We went through a tunnel. At the hospital they started pouring cold water on me,” said Diab, who was featured in the video which Russia’s ambassador to the Netherlands says was staged.

The boy and his family have spoken to various media outlets, who say there was no attack.

Others present during the filming of Diab’s hospital “cleanup” by the White Helmets include hospital administrator Ahmad Kashoi, who runs the emergency ward.

There were people unknown to us who were filming the emergency care, they were filming the chaos taking place inside, and were filming people being doused with water. The instruments they used to douse them with water were originally used to clean the floors actually,” Ahmad Kashoi, an administrator of the emergency ward, recalled. “That happened for about an hour, we provided help to them and sent them home. No one has died. No one suffered from chemical exposure.” –RT

Also speaking at The Hague was Halil al-Jaish, an emergency worker who treated people at the Douma hospital the day of the attack – who said that while some patients did come in for respiratory problems, they were attributed to heavy dust, present in the air after recent airstrikes, but that nobody showed signs of chemical warfare poisoning.

The hospital received people who suffered from smoke and dust asphyxiation on the day of the alleged attack, Muwaffak Nasrim, a paramedic who was working in emergency care, said. The panic seen in footage provided by the White Helmets was caused mainly by people shouting about the alleged use of chemical weapons, Nasrim, who witnessed the chaotic scenes, added. No patients, however, displayed symptoms of chemical weapons exposure, he said. –RT

Emergency paramedic Ahmad Saur who is with the Syrian Red Crescent, said that his hospital ward did not receive any patients exposed to chemical weapons the day of the alleged incident, and that all the patients either needed general medical care or help with injuries.

That said, none of these people’s testimony will make it into the “official record” as it currently stands. Russia’s permanent representative to the OPCW, Aleksandr Shulgin, said that the OPCW has already interviewed six alleged Douma witnesses brought to The Hague , and they won’t interview any more.

The others were ready too, but the experts are sticking to their own guidelinesThey’ve picked six people, talked to them, and said they were ‘completely satisfied’ with their account and did not have any further questions”  -Aleksandr Shulgin

Shulgin also said that “certain Western countries” accusing Russia and Syria of trying to “hide” witnesses to the attack is not true.

Meanwhile, the West – unhappy with this unexpected diversion to its narrative – has called the Russian press conference a “stunt” – with Britain and France both denouncing it as an “obscene masquerade.”

This obscene masquerade does not come as a surprise from the Syrian government, which has massacred and gassed its own people for the last seven years,” said France’s ambassador to the Netherlands, Philippe Lalliot.

“The OPCW is not a theatre,” Britain’s envoy to the agency, Peter Wilson, said in a statement. “Russia’s decision to misuse it is yet another Russian attempt to undermine the OPCW’s work, and in particular the work of its fact-finding mission investigating chemical weapons use in Syria.”

In other words, the West is happy to bomb a sovereign nation based on nothing more than non-public “evidence” suspected to have been staged and provided by the White Helmets, but when actual residents of Douma show up to tell their side of it, they are condemned as an “obscene masquerade” and denied an opportunity to submit their testimony on the record. Sounds about right for the military industrial complex which if nothing else scored a few extra billion in procurement contracts thanks to the latest farcical attack on Syria.

 

Discussion
88 Comments
    b
    Apr 28, 2018 28:04 PM

    I am on another blog that has been discussing syria from the time Trump began to prepare his attack.
    I was going to post the 11 links I provided each pointing out there was no chemical attacks.
    Then it occurred, we cant post more than 1 link here.

    Suffice it to say, there was no gas attack from the syrian government.
    Google doth provide for anyone curious enough to look.

    Apr 28, 2018 28:16 PM

    It will be interesting to see if the U.S. responds to this allegation, won’t it b?

      Apr 28, 2018 28:08 PM

      The essence of this story has been out there for a while now. What I couldn’t understand was why did Russia and the Syrian government prevent the UN inspectors from going to the sight for about a week? Were they cleaning the site or adding some contaminants? Their actions simply added to the mystery.
      What will be the results of the story? People will believe those that they want to believe and the polarization will continue………

        Apr 28, 2018 28:48 PM

        So correct Silver

        Apr 29, 2018 29:56 AM

        SD:

        If you read more carefully you will realize it was actually the UN security people who wouldn’t give clearance and the US/UK/France spun it just as they spun everything else.

        How many lies does someone have to tell you before you understand they are a liar?

        The false flag was obvious from the gitgo. In military action, you attack the enemy, not civilians, there is nothing to be gained by killing your own people.

        There is no such thing as “THE TRUTH” any more than there is of a blind man knowing what an elephant looks like by touching part of it. But it’s always possible for anyone who can actually think for himself to question what he is being told by anyone and asking himself if it makes any sense at all.

        A chemical attack by Assad didn’t make any sense at all.

        If the US/UK/France wanted to know what happened they would investigate. The lack of a serious investigation was on the part of the gang of fools, not Syria.

        The US claims they fired 105 missiles and all hit their target. If that makes sense to you and you believe it because you believe everything the US says, you are an ostrich. Russia has two of them intact and that does make sense.

          Apr 29, 2018 29:01 AM

          +1

            b
            Apr 29, 2018 29:02 AM

            Thats exactly it Doc.

            Im on other blogs, the majority believe their government, if for example I mention an article or interview @ RT, I am obviously a Russian agent spreading fake news.
            Same for southfront or any other independent investigative reporter.

            I have found that most people have about a 15 second attention span and they pretty much refuse to look at anything that is not consistent with their beliefs.

            I would like to hear CFS opinion of this

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNn1v4_Uf0

            It would be nice if christian groups could see who/what they support, unfortunately, the video is longer than 15 seconds.

            Apr 29, 2018 29:37 PM

            I trust Assad and Putin’s version more than the CIA, the Turks, The UN, the French and British, and the ISIS rebels. Assad would have been crazy to have done this on the verge of victory. This was a false flag and I ain’t buying it.

          Apr 29, 2018 29:49 AM

          Thanks Bob for pointing out the weakness in my statement about Russia……I actually picked that up in a different article and should have made that clear. I don’t mean to disappoint you but ever sense I saw the pictures on the new of the little Syrian boy staged in a “dead” scene and later smiling in an after work photo, I agreed with those who said it was not a real attack.
          Speaking of liars, I admit, I do have a problem thinking everything I read from our ”
          Government” is a lie. Stupid perhaps but I generally give the benefit of the doubt unless I can come up with a better explanation. True, many times we can simply ask if it makes any sense and go from there.
          And as far as the missiles trump dropped, No, never believed they all got through or that they all hit their targets. I also saw the pictures of those two which had already been shipped to Russia.
          Let me add one more thing: I found it incredulous that we bombed a laboratory and storage facilities that supposedly were part of the Syrian poison supply chain. Wouldn’t we have run the risk of killing many civilians when all that supply was released in the surrounding neighborhood? Who is responsible for that lie? The Sec. of Defense?

            Apr 29, 2018 29:54 AM

            SD:

            This is all part of a planned war against Syria/Iran and maybe Russia added in. You would think that with as much experience as the US and UK government have with false flag operations they would be a lot better. Take the Kennedy murder for example. They did a great job of involving a lot of people and managed to cover it up for a long time. Now it takes a 10-year-old five seconds to realize it’s some sort of scam.

            End of empire and you get the gang of clowns.

        Apr 30, 2018 30:55 PM

        Here’s a new posting with Scott Ritter, American Inspector of Iraq era speaking on the subject of Syrian gas attack: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/former-un-weapons-inspector-syrian-gas-attack-story-raises-serious-questions

      GH
      Apr 30, 2018 30:11 AM

      Serial liars don’t respond to allegations Al.

      They never admit the lie, because they fully intend on lying again.

    b
    Apr 28, 2018 28:22 PM

    America’s Most Popular Politician Is Nikki Haley…Let That Sink In

    Haley is viewed positively by some 63 per cent of US voters, while only 39 per cent gave their approval of US President Donald Trump.

    The other day I saw a news report of an april 2018 american warship launch.
    100 people went out to protest the mic, 5000 went out to cheer the new vessel.

    I believe if the U.S. government started a large enough war to cover up an economic collapes, the american people would support it.

      Apr 28, 2018 28:00 PM

      Assuming we would do that, and I am not saying that it could not happen, I would have to agree because of the level of ignorance that currently exists in our country.

      Enjoy the NBA playoffs!

      Apr 28, 2018 28:46 PM

      Ebo…….posted that on the other site, and I responded to the same article…..
      I think that is MSM……BS…….., N. Haley is Neocon all the way……..
      The majority of South Carolina, is X military , active Military., Even the Capital has a military Post with in the city.

        Apr 28, 2018 28:32 PM

        For all those who do not know……..Haley was Govn. of South Carolina by default, ….the old Govn. Sanford, went missing for two weeks, while staying with his mistress, in a far away land….Haley never was a true South Carolinaian……..just a big mouth politician

          Apr 28, 2018 28:50 PM

          Did not know that OOTB

      Apr 28, 2018 28:59 PM

      Nikki Haley is the Collin Powell of the Trump era with her speech to the UN about the gas attack……..

      Apr 28, 2018 28:55 PM

      b:
      That was quite the list you posted the other day on America’s aggression overseas.
      One should not ever forget the aggression here in the U S also.
      How about the largest mass execution in U S History ordered by President Lincoln.
      I guess they left that one out of the History books.

        b
        Apr 28, 2018 28:16 PM

        That list wasnt all aggression, it was interventions one way or another.

    Apr 28, 2018 28:07 PM

    672 young Americans dead from a Heroin overdose since President Trump launched missiles at Syria.
    Who needs gas?

    Apr 28, 2018 28:38 PM

    “Speaking of the Military Industrial Complex and the pocketed whores in Congress”
    Sibel Edmonds
    ” He’s going to do just like all those whores in Congress” Sibel on Rand Paul
    Sibel also has some different commentary on Rands Dad, Ron Paul. I will add that Sibel has been an avid Ron Paul supporter.
    ” The Hidden Pentagon Budget & the Traitors in Congress.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrkKPe_oec

      Apr 28, 2018 28:00 PM

      I think she is spot on concerning Rand Paul…….jmo

        Apr 28, 2018 28:11 PM

        Hi Jerry:
        I caught Rand on National Public Radio with comments on the Pompeo confirmation.
        Here’s his quote”The Democrats already voted him in,my vote wouldn’t have mattered.”

          Apr 28, 2018 28:14 PM

          Hello John…….I have said several times in the past……RAND IS A JOKE……

            Apr 29, 2018 29:27 AM

            Maybe, he will come around later, or be used later…….we will see..

    Apr 28, 2018 28:44 PM

    Concerned Catholic Paul Ryan Wants Priests To Shut Up About The Poor.
    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a20084129/paul-ryan-congress-chaplain-resign/

    Apr 28, 2018 28:47 PM

    Searching for that One Congressperson: May 11th Nationwide Call-In for the Bobby McIlvaine Act.
    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/451-searching-for-that-one-congressperson-nationwide-call-in-day-for-the-bobby-mcilvaine-act-on-may-11-2018

      Apr 28, 2018 28:12 PM

      GREAT COMMENT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Apr 28, 2018 28:25 PM

    The real issue here is “Bring The Boys Home”, forget about the endless and meaningless debates, America Needs Peace. Let the other countries sort out what can only be a loser for all those involved. DT

      Apr 28, 2018 28:27 PM

      Ditto………and agree 100%

    Apr 28, 2018 28:51 PM

    Earlier today I was thinking about fake news and the truth.
    Here goes:
    There is no such thing as fake news.
    There are only people that present different constructs to your known reality.

      Apr 29, 2018 29:59 AM

      JK:

      There absolutely is fake news. It consists of knowing what really happened and lying about it.

    b
    Apr 28, 2018 28:23 PM

    50 foreign leaders whom the United States has attempted to assassinate:

    1949 – Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader
    1950s – CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of more than 200 political figures in West Germany to be “put out of the way” in the event of a Soviet invasion
    1950s – Chou En-lai, Prime minister of China, several attempts on his life
    1950s, 1962 – Sukarno, President of Indonesia
    1951 – Kim Il Sung, Premier of North Korea
    1953 – Mohammed Mossadegh, Prime Minister of Iran
    1950s (mid) – Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader
    1955 – Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India
    1957 – Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
    1959, 1963, 1969 – Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia
    1960 – Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq
    1950s-70s – José Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life
    1961 – Francois “Papa Doc” Duvalier, leader of Haiti
    1961 – Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo (Zaire)
    1961 – Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
    1963 – Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
    1960s-70s – Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, many attempts on his life
    1960s – Raúl Castro, high official in government of Cuba
    1965 – Francisco Caamaño, Dominican Republic opposition leader
    1965-6 – Charles de Gaulle, President of France
    1967 – Che Guevara, Cuban leader
    1970 – Salvador Allende, President of Chile
    1970 – Gen. Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile
    1970s, 1981 – General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
    1972 – General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence
    1975 – Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
    1976 – Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
    1980-1986 – Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life
    1982 – Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of Iran
    1983 – Gen. Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan Army commander
    1983 – Miguel d’Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
    1984 – The nine comandantes of the Sandinista National Directorate
    1985 – Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanese Shiite leader (80 people killed in the attempt)
    1991 – Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq
    1993 – Mohamed Farah Aideed, prominent clan leader of Somalia
    1998, 2001-2 – Osama bin Laden, leading Islamic militant
    1999 – Slobodan Milosevic, President of Yugoslavia
    2002 – Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Afghan Islamic leader and warlord
    2003 – Saddam Hussein and his two sons
    2011 – Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya

    b
    Apr 28, 2018 28:25 PM

    U.S. attempts to overthrow governments (* indicates success):

    China 1949 to early 1960s
    Albania 1949-53
    East Germany 1950s
    Iran 1953 *
    Guatemala 1954 *
    Costa Rica mid-1950s
    Syria 1956-7
    Egypt 1957
    Indonesia 1957-8
    British Guiana 1953-64 *
    Iraq 1963 *
    North Vietnam 1945-73
    Cambodia 1955-70 *
    Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
    Ecuador 1960-63 *
    Congo 1960 *
    France 1965
    Brazil 1962-64 *
    Dominican Republic 1963 *
    Cuba 1959 to present
    Bolivia 1964 *
    Indonesia 1965 *
    Ghana 1966 *
    Chile 1964-73 *
    Greece 1967 *
    Costa Rica 1970-71
    Bolivia 1971 *
    Australia 1973-75 *
    Angola 1975, 1980s
    Zaire 1975
    Portugal 1974-76 *
    Jamaica 1976-80 *
    Seychelles 1979-81
    Chad 1981-82 *
    Grenada 1983 *
    South Yemen 1982-84
    Suriname 1982-84
    Fiji 1987 *
    Libya 1980s
    Nicaragua 1981-90 *
    Panama 1989 *
    Bulgaria 1990 *
    Albania 1991 *
    Iraq 1991
    Afghanistan 1980s *
    Somalia 1993
    Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
    Ecuador 2000 *
    Afghanistan 2001 *
    Venezuela 2002 *
    Iraq 2003 *
    Haiti 2004 *
    Somalia 2007 to present
    Honduras 2009
    Libya 2011 *
    Syria 2012
    Ukraine 2014 *
    [arguably, Syria 1949 needs to be added to this list. –DS]
    The above list does not include numerous coups by U.S.-trained fighters

      Apr 29, 2018 29:31 AM

      I guess that is why we have forts in 170 countries ………Rome Empire II

        Apr 29, 2018 29:11 AM

        Here is the rub…….
        the Shadow Government spends billions of dollars on secret operations, overthrowing governments and engages in covert wars that kill thousands – all without any vote or say by the American people; the people that pay the taxes the Shadow Government uses to fund these operations.

    b
    Apr 28, 2018 28:27 PM

    list of nations bombed by the United States:

    Korea and China 1950-53 (Korean War)
    Guatemala 1954
    Indonesia 1958
    Cuba 1959-1961
    Guatemala 1960
    Congo 1964
    Laos 1964-73
    Vietnam 1961-73
    Cambodia 1969-70
    Guatemala 1967-69
    Grenada 1983
    Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)
    Libya 1986
    El Salvador 1980s
    Nicaragua 1980s
    Iran 1987
    Panama 1989
    Iraq 1991 (Persian Gulf War)
    Kuwait 1991
    Somalia 1993
    Bosnia 1994, 1995
    Sudan 1998
    Afghanistan 1998
    Yugoslavia 1999
    Yemen 2002
    Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular basis)
    Iraq 2003-2015
    Afghanistan 2001-2015
    Pakistan 2007-2015
    Somalia 2007-8, 2011
    Yemen 2009, 2011
    Libya 2011, 2015
    Syria 2014-2016

    Lists are from William Blum “lets try democracy”

    Apr 29, 2018 29:29 AM

    This one is easy–there are no 2 sides. The video was accurate but there was no chemical attack despite munchkin Macron’s irrefutable evidence. The OPCW couldn’t get there earlier because of safety concerns of the UN—there was fighting in the area. The citizens, doctors of the hospital along with early journalists on the ground verified NO CHEMICAL ATTACK. Also, right from the start of the alleged chemical attack, anyone with half a brain would know Assad is not the stupidest dictator in the world and would chemical bomb his own people after Trump announced pull out of American troops. Also, the Syrian troops were within hours of taking Douma. This just verifies how dishonorable the west is in order to achieve whatever goals they have. We are a nasty government and the UK and France aren’t much different. Indeed, Iran might have it right about the great satan walking among us.

      Apr 29, 2018 29:29 PM

      Double bravo — continues to escape me why our friend Al insists on his “two sides” pablum/cop-out

        Apr 30, 2018 30:37 AM

        +1

      Apr 29, 2018 29:44 PM

      Doc is right on the money. Assad is not that dumb. And the Christians in Syria support Assad as they know they will be killed if the ISIS rebels, so loved by McCain, Lndsay Graham, and HRC, take over.

    Apr 29, 2018 29:00 AM

    Doc:

    Bravo

      Apr 29, 2018 29:05 AM

      +1

        b
        Apr 29, 2018 29:06 AM

        Thats exactly it Doc.

        Im on other blogs, the majority believe their government, if for example I mention an article or interview @ RT, I am obviously a Russian agent spreading fake news.
        Same for southfront or any other independent investigative reporter.

        I have found that most people have about a 15 second attention span and they pretty much refuse to look at anything that is not consistent with their beliefs.

        I would like to hear CFS opinion of this

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNn1v4_Uf0

        It would be nice if christian groups could see who/what they support, unfortunately, the video is longer than 15 seconds.

        posted on the wrong spot, sry to double post.

          Apr 29, 2018 29:22 AM

          CFS…….is crossing the Atlantic…….from what he said last week…..you might have to wait on your question.

    Apr 29, 2018 29:54 AM

    There are pictures circulating around the net of John McCain with the leadership of ISIS in Syria. The compound where those pictures were made got tomahawked. The US, France and UK were cleaning up their own mess. And preventing a real gas attack.

    The entities that controlled North Korea are the same entities that are controlling (not for long) Israel, Iran and Pakistan. They’re trying to start a war, but it won’t work. They’re getting taken-out one by one every day.

    The apprehension of war criminals around the globe is underway/ongoing and will be on full display for the masses very soon.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ6rFVhiMX8

      Apr 29, 2018 29:06 AM

      Thanks………GREAT INFO…..connecting more dots……….

        Apr 29, 2018 29:09 AM

        Question…..where is “Q”….getting the idea Mueller is a White Hat…..?
        (question based on April 28 info)…………..Thanks………

          Apr 29, 2018 29:06 AM

          Tracy Beanz…….reviewed her take on White Vs.Black……no real conclusion.., just what if.

            Apr 29, 2018 29:10 AM

            I will be really surprised, if Mueller is a white hat…….jmo

            Apr 29, 2018 29:36 AM

            If, Tracy goes main stream and wants money…..might be best to forget her…..see today’s notes from Q…….think Pooh

    Apr 29, 2018 29:00 AM

    Think about it this way, OOTB. You work your way up the ladder. When you get near the top, some deep state reps show up and say they have all the dirt on you that they have created. So then you have no choice but to play ball and continue to coverup more crime. If you don’t play ball, they bury you in the news (which they control), they bury you financially (which they control), and they strip you of everything, literally.

    Then comes along the white hat play and Donald Trump who knows the game, has his own and can actually afford his own security detail (so he’s protected) and can make the nescasary moves to uphold the constitution and rule of law.
    Then the people that were pushed in the swamp look for the way out and change sides. The ones that have …all…the…dirt….

    4D

      Apr 29, 2018 29:19 AM

      Mueller might be CYA moment, …..I keep going back to 911….since he was involved in the cover up. Since, a lot of Mueller friends are going down left and right, and members of the deep state are being exposed on a daily basis….Mueller might be thinking , dang I’M NEXT.

        Apr 29, 2018 29:22 AM

        BTW……Chartster…….thanks for the reply………..

        Apr 29, 2018 29:16 AM

        I’ll bet that’s why Guiliani has come on board. He has known Mueller for years and I’ll bet they will be engaging lengthy dialogues on how to work out Mueller’s impending problems. Mueller is probably feeling the noose tighten and they’re probably trying to work out a deal; of course Mueller doesn’t like prison food and he knows the OIG and Nunez are plowing ahead and it’s only a matter of time before the whole cast of players and corruption are exposed.

    Apr 29, 2018 29:16 PM
    AJ
    Apr 29, 2018 29:44 PM

    Russian TV Uses Film Stills as Proof Syria Chemical Attack Was Staged
    https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russian-tv-uses-film-stills-as-proof-syria-chemical-attack-was-staged-61249

    AJ
    Apr 29, 2018 29:45 PM

    Russia Brings Syrians to The Hague to Make Underwhelming Case Chemical Attack Was Fake
    https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/russia-brings-syrians-hague-make-underwhelming-case-chemical-attack-fake/

    b
    Apr 29, 2018 29:33 PM

    ‘Deep state’ elements pushing for Syrian conflict – Dennis Kucinich tells Larry King on RT (VIDEO)

    https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.04/article/5ae58c56fc7e93594f8b457b.jpg

    Apr 29, 2018 29:19 PM

    What a lot of people haven’t considered is after The Fall Of The Roman Empire the world went into the dark ages. Rome was corrupt but it spread enlightenment across Britain and western Europe, the world is still in awe of Roman culture. The American empire began with violence ( civil war) and after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, our species could easily end life for our fragile planet. You must remember that there are trillions of planets but only one earth. DT

      Apr 29, 2018 29:37 PM

      Few people believe the US Treasury’s assurances that the 261 million ounces (roughly 8,100 tonnes) in official gold reserves that are stored in Fort Knox and other places are fully audited and accounted for. The Federal Reserve has never been fully and independently audited. The pressure for a full, independent audit of all US gold reserves has always been resisted by the government and in Congress. Nobody knows if the gold is really there. What if the vaults turn out to be empty? It’s wiser to bring your gold home while you can, rather than to just keep on wondering.

        Apr 29, 2018 29:38 PM

        Less than ONE OZ PER PERSON……………WHAT A JOKE>>>>>>>

        Apr 29, 2018 29:51 PM

        Canada has mostly followed The American lead, Canada has no gold reserves neither does Great Britain. Germany and their citizens value gold, and hold substantial reserves. Germany is interested in domination so they will not refute gold, domination is achieved primarily through financial means, the military solution never lasts. The rest of Western Europe is a basket case in this economy and that includes France. DT

    Apr 29, 2018 29:00 PM

    Cause of the civil war – gold
    WW1 – gold and oil
    WW2 – gold
    Korea – gold
    Vietnam – gold
    All of the other conflicts – gold, oil, central bank control and all assets.
    ( defending the fiat USD control )

    The revolutionary war was about sovereignty, gold and Christianity.
    The 2nd revolutionary war “happening right now” ( unbeknownst to most ) is about sovereignty, gold and Christianity.

      GH
      Apr 30, 2018 30:00 AM

      Gold,yes. But it’s useful to know a bit more. Interesting excerpt on the real motives behind the USA Civil War:


      Bismarck knew the truth and revealed it in 1876 to a German, Conrad Siem, who published it (“La Vieille Prance,” N-216, March, 1921). Bismarck said:

      “The division of the United States into two federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War by the High Financial Power of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economical and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the World. The voice of the Rothschilds predominated. They foresaw tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, indebted to the Jewish financiers, to the vigorous Republic, confident and self-providing.

      Therefore, they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus to dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic. Lincoln never suspected these underground machinations. He was anti-slaverist, and he was elected as such, but his character prevented him from being the man of one party. When he had affairs in his hands, he perceived that these sinister financiers of Europe, the Rothschilds, wished to make him the executor of their designs.

      They made the rupture between the North and the South imminent! The masters of Finance in Europe made this rupture definitive in order to exploit it to the utmost. Lincoln’s personality surprised them. His candidature did not trouble them: they thought to easily dupe the candidate wood-cutter. But Lincoln read their plots and soon understood that the South was not the worst foe, but the Jew financiers. He did not confide his apprehensions; he watched the gestures of the Hidden Hand; he did not wish to expose publicly the questions which would disconcert the ignorant masses.

      He decided to eliminate the international bankers, by establishing a system of loans, allowing the states to borrow directly from the people without intermediary. He did not study financial questions, but his robust good sense revealed to him that the source of any wealth resides in the work and economy of the nation. He opposed emissions through the international financiers. He obtained from Congress the right to borrow from the people by selling to it the ‘bonds’ of States. The local banks were only too glad to help such a system. And the Government and the nation escaped the plots of the foreign financiers. They understood at once, that the United States would escape their grip. The death of Lincoln was resolved upon. Nothing is easier than to find a fanatic to strike.”

      “The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots. And Israel went anew to grab the riches of the World. I fear that Jewish Banks with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America, and use it to systematically corrupt modern civilization. The Jews will not hesitate to plunge the whole of Christendom into wars and chaos, in order that ‘the earth should become the inheritance of Israel.’

      Quoted in: Cherep Spiridovich – THE SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT OR THE HIDDEN HAND The Unrevealed In History 100 Historical Mysteries Explained (1926), p 180

      https://archive.org/details/41860025CherepSpiridovichTHESECRETWORLDGOVERNMENTORTHEHIDDENHANDTheUnrevealedInH

        GH
        Apr 30, 2018 30:08 AM

        Trump is tight with the crowd behind all the problems. E.g. Wilbur Ross, United States Secretary of Commerce, is a Rothschild man.

        Keeping his enemies even closer than his friends, 4D?

        Not likely.

          Apr 30, 2018 30:23 AM

          GH:
          With Wilbur, I always contended that all roads lead to Cypress.

        Apr 30, 2018 30:38 AM

        Lincoln was the worst president in American history.

        He was in the Whig party that was a team of spies that infiltrated the government and where anti Jacksonian. They wanted a Rothschild controlled bank. Lincoln defaulted on the railroad bonds (biggest Amercan default in history) backed by gold against the south at the same time the Bank of England created the “panic of 1857” which went off of the gold standard, which ended the gold rush in the western states. The south demanded gold for trade instead of fiat currency which started the war. Lincoln also did the Morill treaty charging a 40% teriffs on the south crippling them.
        Lincoln also is the only president that completely destroyed an America city when he burned Atlanta to the ground!
        Abraham Lincoln was a real piece of sh~t!!!

          Apr 30, 2018 30:55 AM

          The morons in the Union army had no clue they were fighting for the slavery of their future generations. Much like the liberal left voting for their kids and grandkids slavery in modern day.
          The civil way being about slavery has the rediculous equivelece of the war in Iraq being about WMDs.

            Apr 30, 2018 30:56 AM

            I’m not correcting the spelling..

          Apr 30, 2018 30:34 AM

          I take it , you would not vote for him…….., might even consider him a bad penny, no wonder no one picks up pennies on the sidewalk anymore……. 🙂

            Apr 30, 2018 30:35 AM

            Or, not worth a cent…………..

            Apr 30, 2018 30:45 AM

            His wife did the world a favor by putting the derringer under his chin in the theater. It wasn’t John Booth. (Say some historians)

            Apr 30, 2018 30:25 AM

            Now that is interesting……..I need to do some home work………thanks for the reply..

          GH
          Apr 30, 2018 30:13 AM

          I’m not exactly a fan of Lincoln myself.

          But I’m still digging to get what seems to me to be the true story.

          Who killed him? For the moment, I suspect the bankers, for having cut them out of the greenback printing. Yes, he was pressured into the National Banking act of 1963, which let them get their foot back in the door, but they knew he knew their game and couldn’t be counted on.

          In any case, Chartster, the main point still stands: Trump is surrounded by the worst of the worst. You may be right about him saving the day, I hope so, but it isn’t the way to bet.

            Apr 30, 2018 30:22 AM

            Anyone that has worked for or with the top 500 corporations work for or with a Rothie entity.
            Question: what do you think Wilbur is doing wrong?

            Apr 30, 2018 30:31 AM

            Wilbur is getting richer………..JMO

            GH
            Apr 30, 2018 30:13 PM

            Wilbur doing wrong? Being a Rothschild man in the White House.

            Mnuchin? Skull and Bones.

            Trump has a sordid past, and has been and is surrounded with despicable people. By choice.

            Yes, there is the saying, keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Maybe Trump is doing that. But I’ll need more than Q and a decoder ring to give him the benefit of the doubt.

            GH
            Apr 30, 2018 30:23 PM

            “[Ross ]spent two decades heading Rothschild Inc’s bankruptcy advisory business, where he represented investors in Trump’s failing Taj Mahal casino in the early 1990s. Ross and Carl Icahn convinced bondholders to strike a deal with Trump, who some investors wanted to push out, which allowed Trump to retain control of the property.”

            See anything unsettling there?

            Apr 30, 2018 30:26 PM

            Well, with Trump upholding the rule of law.
            Sticking to the constitution.
            Exposing the deep state, media, FBI, DOJ, and everyone else.
            Cutting taxes.
            Cutting regulations.
            Exposing the scam immigration.
            Exposing dems and RINOs
            Crushing ISIS.
            Bringing Korea back to peace.
            Deregulating community banks.
            ( I could go on and on )

            Maybe you do need that “decoder ring”?😉

            GH
            Apr 30, 2018 30:41 PM

            Could be…I’ve been spending most of my time in history books lately.

            I’ll have a look at that list. I’m not so sure about an item or three, but worth considering, thanks.

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    Apr 30, 2018 30:24 AM

    How could anyone except the lying zionist warmongers believe that Gentleman Dr. Assad could murder innocent woman and children with gas or anything else. The last election, the Syrian people gave him 88% of the vote as they love him. The latest real murderers of Syrians are the three missile lobbing musketeers (Trump, Macron, and May).

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