Thoughts on Syria from Big Al and Jim. What are your thoughts? Big Al also has some important questions for listeners.
BIG AL HAS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO COMMENTED ON THE FORUM. NUMBER ONE: I JUST LISTENED TO THE EDITORIAL AGAIN AND COULD FIND NOT A WORD FROM EITHER JIM OR MYSELF ENDORSING THE U.S. GOING INTO SYRIA AT THIS POINT. IF I AM INCORRECT PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHY SOME OF YOU FEEL THAT JIM IS AN AGREEING MEMBER OF THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
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Yes, he certainly is raiding his office!
And, this person was a very hgh govt official? (I of course mean Hillary!)
This worries me. It looks like Trump is preparing to attack:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-09/us-navy-destroyer-armed-tomahawks-arrives-syrian-coast-harassed-russian-warplanes
Worries the hell out of me also, CFS!
This limits Trump’s ability:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/russia-has-figured-out-how-jam-u-s-drones-syria-n863931
Other than the statement of the U.S. being in a position to not attack alone……….
I could comment point by point but really, is there any point?
I would just like to know, does anyone that listened to this believe there is any credibility to this in the least?
Regular posters and people that rarely or never post, is there anyone that believes this is credible in any way shape or form?
(other than the U.S. might not be alone in their insanity this time)
Anyone?
b, Haven’t you listened to statements made by May and Merkel?
May:
Theresa May has said she “utterly condemns” the “barbaric” alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria.
The PM said if the attack was confirmed as another example of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime’s brutality, “the regime and its backers including Russia, must be held to account”.
Russia has said no evidence of a chemical weapons attack in formerly rebel-held Douma has been found.
The US and France threatened a “joint, strong response” to the alleged attack.
When asked whether she would recall Parliament over Syria, Mrs May said: “We are working urgently with our allies to assess what has happened and we are also working with our allies on what action might be necessary.”
Give it up cfs, I follow daily whats going on in Syria from multiple sources.
I have followed for years.
I am simply asking if any listeners here believe there is any credibility to what “Kinney” has said, other than Al and yourself.
Anyone?
b, How about the originators of this information? Or is everyone dishonest and crazy?
All these western counties including Saudi Arabia and shor…..nuff Israel are the axis of evil. United states, FRANCE, England. And now with Merkel Germany
The world is a pretty evil place isn’t it Virginnprincr.
Have not seen you here before by the way unless you are hiding under a false moniker.
Many that for elaborating on this issue, CFS!
Thanks for the interview, guys.
Al, I agree with you, I can’t see what kind of sense it makes for Russia/Syria to do this. The notion that it’s much easier to imagine Assad doing this than Israel is utter nonsense. USS Liberty? I could post many more. Zionists love false flags, just like Communists do.
I’m not sure what you’re saying with these posts, CFS…
b — All due respect to Mr. McKinney, I’m sure he’s a fine, upstanding member of his community, but to glibly pass off the Skripal incident as genuine is a big red flag. Just like his praising Bush was last year. So, no…for me or you who are operating on a very different set of facts/assumptions, there’s not much credibility.
“very different set of facts”, do we calls those alternative facts?
An alternative reality, somewhere out there beyond Saturn.
Jim’s boots on the ground experience is what gives him credibility in my opiinion. I consider it because most other opinions are based on emotion and what some folks want to believe.
My only point is to consider what Jim has to say and then make up your own mind. And, we certainly have some great minds here!
Al:
No one in the military would consider a staff wienie someone with “boots on the ground.” Clearly JM has never seen a day of combat. Guys who have been in combat recognize those who actually fought easily and he has never fought or been near a battlefield and it shows.
The limited public information available paints a pretty clear picture the Russian government developed the chemical weapon used in the attack on Skripal -they (Russian gov) lost control of it or they authorized its use. The pattern of facts for those who track Russian FSB and GRU activities are well documented – another actor is always possible, but, please show some information to support – I would love to see it. Right now, no other information is available, and no other actor identifiable.
I’ve worked Russia as a linguist and FAO since 1985, this is how they work. I love the people, but they are trapped in the dark grip of dictatorship. Putin was sending a message, worth more for internal control than the price of international condemnation. But his hubris be his downfall, he cannot afford Syria or a fight with the West, and his system will collapse eventually. Supporting Syria may hasten that fall, that would be good for Russia and the West.
Show some proof please, we would like to see it.
Jim McKinney:
You have said something that is both true and perfectly meaningless at the same time. There is actually no proof of what caused the reaction, we have a doctor from the NHS who said there were no patients having such symptom and the recipe for what the Russians may have developed has been a matter of public record for 30 years. In short, there is not a lick of proof that either an attack really took place, or what was involved or who did it. And from a perfectly logical point of view, there simply isn’t any valid reason to conduct such an attack against a minor figure at best.
Given that the US has lost every war fought for many years, it’s irrational at best to encourage yet another conflict.
I was not only a pilot with 832 missions in combat, I was a trained 0202 intelligence officer. When armed with only limited information, you have to consider the totality of what you know. It’s the UK, the US and France that are acting in an illogical and guilty way. Who conducts a major attack against a sovereign nation based on evidence as flimsy as we have from Syria. The Russians warned in advance that there would be a false flag operation and all the real evidence and conjecture suggests that that is exactly what happened.
Your brain washing is showing. If there is a dictatorship on the verge of collapse, it is the US. I don’t speak Russian but I’m told the Russian word for hubris is spelled Trump.
great response Robert! Jim, in order for the chemical to be identified so quickly, they need a reference sample, or to have had a reference sample. Everyone has these, and it’s a straight forward to reproduce. Maybe we are to not get your use of the word “developed”… as in many many years ago, yes they did develop it. If the weapon was a Swiss Army Knife, would you blame the Swiss?
Part of the point of my comment, CFS
I looked at news footage of the victims and that simply did not look like a nerve agent. It looked like Chlorine gas to me. (If I recall correctly, chlorine gas is not covered under any UN prohibition or treaty.)
CFS:
As usual, you recall incorrectly. Of course chlorine gas is prohibited as a weapon of war.
He simply did not recall correctly, Bob. The world will not end!
Just for the record, mr. Know-it-all Moriarty.
The UN does not consider Chlorine Gas in its list of “chemical weapons”
Note: I am not saying it shouldn’t, merely that it does not.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-chlorine-idUSBREA3L11I20140422
Apr 22, 2014 – Chlorine gas attacks in Syria this month, if proven, expose a major loophole in an international deal to remove chemical weapons from the war-torn country and … gas that was never included on the list submitted to the OPCW is now allegedly being used on the battlefield, leading some countries to consider …
CFS:
You are such a jackass.
Chemical Weapons
The modern use of chemical weapons began with World War I, when both sides to the conflict used poisonous gas to inflict agonizing suffering and to cause significant battlefield casualties. Such weapons basically consisted of well known commercial chemicals put into standard munitions such as grenades and artillery shells. Chlorine, phosgene (a choking agent) and mustard gas (which inflicts painful burns on the skin) were among the chemicals used. The results were indiscriminate and often devastating. Nearly 100,000 deaths resulted. Since World War I, chemical weapons have caused more than one million casualties globally.
As a result of public outrage, the Geneva Protocol, which prohibited the use of chemical weapons in warfare, was signed in 1925.
Common Bob,
Are you getting old and grumpy or what. A guy makes a simple mistake and you have to him a Jack Ass!
Al:
CFS bombards the board with every example he can of any evil done by Muslims yet when the IDF murders 30 and shoots another 1100 peaceful protestors he and you go all quiet. The best you can do is to say you don’t support yet you also don’t bother denouncing. And these are the clowns you think want peace? Just how on earth did you come to that conclusion.
What religion do you and he subscribe to that supports, “Blessed be the war mongers?”
Chlorine gas was prohibited by the Geneva conventions in 1925 and the UN didn’t even exist. And if CFS doesn’t like being called jackass, perhaps he should think before he start calling people names. If I get shot at, I shoot back and I am a whole lot more accurate and experienced than he is. He is a lying jackass.
I don’t mind you calling me names Moriarty.
The Fact is, I did NOT say the Geneva accords did not ban Chlorine, I said that chlorine is NOT on the UN list of Chemical Weapons.
I believe this is an error of oversight.
Nevertheless, Mr. Moriarty if you wish to prove me wrong, kindly produce a U.N. definition of “Chemical Weapons” which includes chlorine.
You will not, because you cannot.
As stupid as it may seem, to both you and I, the UN does not include Chlorine gas in its definition of a chemical weapon.
It was for that reason chlorine military capability was not removed from Syria. (They concentrated on looking for Sarin)
If you had bothered to look up the Reuters citation I gave you might have learnt something.
The point of my original comment was to point out that notwithstanding the fact that Syria had agreed for the UN to go through the country to ensure there were no chemical weapons, in fact they overlooked Chlorine.
And that it looked to me that chlorine had probably been used not sarin as reported in the media.
I stand by all comments I have made about Islam being an unacceptable Misogynist religion. I am totally disgusted by Islamic rapes of women in England and the utter failure of either the authorities or the Imams to condemn this.
CFS:
Like the Mossad, GATA and JM, you love telling half truths. You said the UN did not prohibit chorine gas. Which may be true but it’s utterly meaningless. the Geneva conventions of 1925 did prohibit chlorine gas and the UN and the US are required to adhere to existing treaties.
Are you stupid enough to suggest that because the UN failed to say something that all of the provisions of the Geneva Conventions no longer apply? It remains illegal for anyone to use chlorine gas.
What was the motto of the Mossad again? “WE ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH?”
I do not think Putin poisoned the spy in England. I do not think Assad or the Russians were behind the gas attack in Syria. These are false flag events just like the Gulf of Tonkin non-attack or the sinking of the Maine. Show us some evidence before going to war like the traitor McCain and the fool Lindsay Graham urge.
Good idea Bonzo. Not a good idea buy an excellent idea!
Show some proof please, we would like to see it.
JM:
You have zero proof that Putin conducted either a chemical attack in the UK or Assad in Syria so why are you saying you want proof from Bonzo? If you have even a shred of proof that Putin or Assad was involved, we would love to see it.
Alternatively you could always learn to think for yourself and ignore 25 years of brainwashing. It’s irrational to believe Putin was involved in the UK or Assad in Syria and all information suggests false flag.
Let me tell you what I learned during my six years in the Marines and two years in combat. Staff wienies always get it wrong. Always, They generate ream after ream of wonderful theories and plans that are 100% valid. Right up until the first bullet is fired. Then the guys with the boots on the ground have to use their heads and think about how to extract themselves from the stupid plans they were given.
The staff always get it wrong. Always.
If Trump is stupid enough to attack Syria we are going to realize that the US has made a terrible mistake. He maintains he will attack, Putin maintains he will sink every ship that is part of the attack. There is an excellent chance that thousands of American kids are going to die because Trump need to detract the public from thinking about his $130,000 hooker.
The SA war was based on a false flag. US participation in WW I was based on a series of false flags. The US involvement in WW II was based on a false flag. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag. We were lied into Iraq, we were lied into Libya, Iran has no nuclear weapons program and 17 intelligence agencies all agree on that point.
I’m starting to see a pattern. How about you?
Sad part its pointless.
I think it might be time to conclude people like Mckinny know what they are doing and are simply satanic.
Honustly, is it possible people can be that stupid?
It, of course, limits his ability. Where, if they even exist, are the cooler heads. They simply have to prevail in this situation.
b,
If I understand your comment you are referring to the U.S. engaging in a unilateral action and you are saying that not to do so is not a credible statement. All can say my friend, is that I hope that you are not correct.
I would also comment that because of the very grave nature of this situation, my prediction is that the U.S. will not act unilaterally.
I think Putin holds a Trump card. All Putin would have to do to create turmoil in the US is to say: ” I admit that Donald Trump and I colluded to help him win the 2016 election.”
It would not have to be a true statement and I don’t believe Putin would have to provide proof.
The mood in Congress is such that a simple statement like that could result in impeachment of Trump and take the U.S. out of the game in Syria.
I have no respect for people like Jim M. He is dangerous
Yes, he is.
That’s why I spent 32 years defending the Constitution. What do you for this nation?
So you were a “nation builder.” Where in the Constitution does it say that the gooberment is supposed to take money from hard working Americans (and by force if necessary) and give it to foreign gooberments for “nation building?”
What do you for this nation?
Well, if he’s a US taxpayer then for starters pay your salary and pension.
ditto…….I was think exactly the same thing….this guy should be thanking us….
think to thinking…
JM:
When the oath of office you took used the words, “against all enemies, foreign and domestic” what do you think they meant?
JM:
My memory must be failing. By which provision in the Constitution is the US allowed to invade a sovereign nation that is no threat to the US. Or alternatively, when did Congress approve such and attack? Or the UN?
In short, what is our legal basis for getting involved in Syria other than the “Clean Break from the Peace Process?”
GH:
+10
I call out blind immoral idiots like yourself.
You and your mindset are one of the worst enemies the US has.
Defending the Constitution my ass. Breaking the Constitution is more like it.
If you want to know how a real man in uniform behaves, Jim:
Ditto……..Awaken at last………..
JM:
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel: Samuel Johnson
MIC Swamp Creature.
If you are referring to Jm, Eddy you are not correct. I know Jim; his wife; and, his kids really we. He definitely does not fall into the category of a swamp creature.
I know Jim; his wife; and, his kids really we. He definitely does not fall into the category of a swamp creature.
Exactly my point I posted below originally replying to GH:
“By all outward appearances old Jim would be a great guy to have a beer with and shoot the shit. I bet he has plenty of nice stories about his family. I bet he’s very polite and nice to his dog and would probably make a good neighbor (no noise or loud parties in the middle of the night, no suburban blight on his property, etc.).
See, that’s the scary thing. Someone can, by all outward appearances, be a fine person yet be a part of a monstrous machine that is destroying this country and taking down the rest of the world. And that person is so brainwashed he doesn’t even realize it.
And most people haven’t a clue. This is why we are doomed: Because evil is not always so obvious that even the average Ameroconned Sheeple can recognize it.”
That is a really interesting icea CFS!
GH, we have communicated for quite some time. Please trust me. Regarding McKinney, he is fine
No, Al, he is not fine.
Remove the wax from your ears–that is what virtually every poster on this board is telling you.
V, or whomever you are. Any more comments like that without giving a reason why and you are gone from our site. Last chance, buddy1
General McKinney is right … too complicated to blame anyone …
‘Let’s hit them all while we have the muscle’ Frankie Five Angels. LOL
Israel is a anti Semitic rouge terrorist country. They always have a reason to destroy. Remember the u.s liberty???
Al, where I think you’re very mistaken in this interview is near the end, when you state that israel, iraq, many other major players including SA really want peace over there.
Only in the most abstract sense–‘I would love to have the peace that would be consequent on my ultimate victory’. Isn’t that pretty much the dream of Jewish messianism?
Does anyone think 27 years of constant war in the Middle East has been an accident, in spite of everyones’ best intentions and efforts for peace?!? Is that why Saudi Arabi is destroying Yemen right now?
Facts are presented day after day, week after week about the actors and agendas involved, the intentions that have been published to the world. The facts aren’t disputed, nor are coherent alternative narratives proposed. Yet the logical implications of those facts are ignored. And then comes a non-sequitur like ‘everyone really just wants peace’.
Obviously the actors that matter have higher priorities than peace. A lot has been said about what those priorities are.
To cut through the haze. Al, do you buy the Creature from Jekyll Island narrative? If not, I would love to hear an alternative theory. We all know the Balfour Declaration was signed over to Rothschild. You’ve seen the Rothschild Supreme Court building?
So, why on God’s Earth should Americans have to think twice about whether or not they want to help the Illuminati Rothschild’s, who are raping us with the Federal Reserve, achieve their ends in the Middle East?
I respect you a lot Al, and because of your position I bite my tongue at times. But a time comes when enough is enough and rebuke is warranted.
McKinney is a MIC man so what else can we expect?
This interview is absurd on so many levels but if for no other reason than the country can’t afford this insanity. The Feral Gooberment is in excess of $20 trillion in debt and adding to it at a trillion a year and that is just the Feral Gooberment debt. Does not include 100s of trillions in unfunded feral liabilities or tens of trillions of state debt and unfunded liabilities.
This country can’t afford to spend a penny on Syria, yet people like McKinney will have us spending tens of billions or more there and stay there until the empire implodes.
The situation is completely insane and listening to this interview makes me feel like the inmates are running the asylum which is exactly the case!
Yeah, I’m pretty fed up with fools and/or fake patriots dragging my once great country down. They’ve been screwing it up for how many decades now? Disgusting.
People should be mad as Hell and they shouldn’t take any more of this. The time to rise up is now!
Of course that won’t happen. But one day the empire will implode on debt if it does not first get obliterated in a nuclear war.
For sure! I rememeer seeing “2016 the Movie” it’s now too late to save the USA….just a question of timing!
Evening GH,
I had the G Edward on my Show in the distant past and I happen to agree with the thesis of his book.
I think that there is a much fairer and more efficient way to handle our banking system. I worked first hand with representatives of the Fed when I was a bank director. I will say that they certainly kept us on our toes and kept us in business.
I look at the Fed in per;haps a simplistic and very macro sense.
Extreme economic power is something that I am familiar with to an extent. I certainly believe that very wealthy people are in incredibly strong positions in the world. I don’t constantly bitch about something that I can do little about – I work around it.
Regarding the mentality of the leaders of Israel, I believe that they are making some very gervous mistakes.
I believe that thee folks who reside in the Middle East, for the most part, would appreciate peace.
“Thoughts on Syria from Big Al and Jim. What are your thoughts?”
Great job, boys! Gotta feed the MIC!
And now if you will excuse me I got to go or I will miss the Two Minutes Hate.
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This Tim Anderson tweet says it all as Assad had absolutely no motive for such an attack as it could only help his enemies. My personal belief is the whole attack is fake and nobody really died from any chlorine gas attack.
https://twitter.com/timand2037/status/983684052702998529?s=03
1. Syria is a sovereign nation with a democratically elected president who won in a free election.
2. There is no civil war in progress and never was. A civil war is a conflict between groups within a country. The “rebels” are in fact outside terrorists supported, paid and supplied by Israel, the US, the UK, France, Saudi Arabia and at times Turkey.
3. The two main aggressive religious groups are the Sunnis and the Zionists. All of the power and position the Shias have gained in the last 18 years was due to the stupidity and poor leadership of the US in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. The Shias won by doing nothing except surviving. They are not the aggressors in any of those countries.
4. The UN has not passed any resolutions allowing US aggression or troops in Syria.
5. Congress and not passed any resolutions allowing US aggression or troops in Syria.
6 If the latest chemical attack even took place, it probably was chlorine, not Sarin. The “White Hats” photographed “saving” children were not dressed for chemical warfare.
7. Assad is winning the war. There is zero reason for him to use chemical warfare.
8. The terrorists are losing the war. There is every reason for them to use chemical weapons.
9. Israel has been behind the scenes of every conflict in the Middle East since the Yinon paper in 1982 where it was suggested they destroy all of their neighbors. There is no reason to believe they were part of any chemical attack but for certain they are supplying and supporting the terrorists.
10. A group of dual national Neo-cons have been trying to format war between the US and Russia and the US and Iran for 22 years since the “Clean Break.” Now that they own Trump, they may get their wish. They lied us into Iraq and they are quite happy to lie us into WW III.
11. While we talk about “winning” and “losing” wars, war is not a basketball game. No one wins any war, all that happens is that one side loses a lot more than the other.
12. The US has been worse off at the end in every single war fought in the last 18 years. This will be no different and could be catastrophic.
13. Putin has said that if you attack Syria without provocation, he will respond and will sink the ships involved. I believe him.
14. From a strategic point of view it might make sense for Russia to launch a preemptive strike agains the US. It will be nuclear and the US will lose.
15. Armageddon is the ultimate battle between good and evil for those who subscribe to a Christian or Jewish belief. The US, France, the UK, Jordan and Israel are all on the same side.
It is not the side of good.
All true Robert.
We are wasting trillions of dollars and many rivers of innocent blood with all these unjust murderous Middle East wars for the benefit of only Israhell.
Trump is not an American Firster, but an Israhell Firster.
Bob, Sadly I really think #14 is going to become reality soon. America as I once believed and dreamed it was is sham:(
And in Syria we are on the side of Isis fighting Assad. I prefer Assad. The Christians in Syria prefer Assad.
Right on, Bob. You saved me a whole bunch of typing and did it a Hell of lot better than I would have. Thanks.
My observations are just that, observations. Your scenario is interesting, and possible – but I don’t believe its gonna happen, just like last year we did not end up in war. I predict a coalition strike with some NATO and maybe middle-east players that stuns Assad, possible the Russians, into rethinking their purpose. I predict Trump will inform Congress per the War Powers Act, and meet legal requirements.
The Russians are fighting because they fear an Islamic takeover of an important ally in the region. A very, very important consideration – for the US and Europe too. But the Russian’s cannot afford to sustain operations there.
Assad is struggling, as are the Russians. War is ugly, no winners, agreed, and most importantly it is expensive. Russian contractors and supply lines are challenged, they are facing sever economic issues and sanctions, this cannot last. Without Russia and Iranian support, the Assad government falls. The real trick is who fills the gap – that is the challenge, and it must me driven by regional players, not the US.
The US and Israel are already fighting there – they don’t need an excuse to be there fighting, why I question the false flag scenario. Most of the Islamic groups fighting Assad hate the US, so tell me why they want to keep us there? There are many, many ways to argue to stay beside this – but the Trump admin doesn’t want to stay – and for good reason. The US has to help set the conditions to get out, or it will fall further and further into Islamic radicalism and anarchy.
The Obama supported Arab Spring created this fiasco – Trump is stuck with it. But it cannot be ignored. You may believe the US isn’t good, but I argue oligarchy, Islamic law and anarchy is much, much worse.
Appreciate your perspective and challenges. Let’s see how this plays out – But I am betting no nuclear war.
A Russian Su-34 fighter jet armed with what looks like Kh-35 cruise anti-ship missiles has just been spotted over the Syrian city of Tartus.
According to reports from local sources, this is not the only Russian jet armed with Kh-35 cruise missiles, which are now flying in this part of Syria and in eastern Mediterranean.
The Kh-35U is a jet-launched version of the Kh-35 subsonic cruise anti-ship missile. It has a HE fragmentation shaped charge warhead and the operational range of at least 300km.
Anyone think this has to do with the american fleet approaching Syria?
Naaa, probly fake news.
Thank guys like Kinney for this, lets all support Israel. hoooray and halliluya.
Praise the lord and pass the ammunition.
And never forget, the biggest terrorist in the world is the US Gooberment. Nobody kills more people each year.
And don’t you ever forget that your government rulers may gun YOU down at any time and any place.
And if you don’t believe that just read this article and if you don’t believe what the author says view the embedded video.
Actually, view the embedded video even if you do believe the author.
If that video doesn’t send a chill down your spine and make you think long and hard about your gooberment nothing will.
https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2018/04/07/soy-boy-politics-2/
And after watching that video make sure you get back to work, tax serf. After all, you HAVE to fund all this or your government masters will lock you in a cage (and if you resist they will kill you.)
Yes, you too can be gunned down while crawling on your knees at the behest of your government masters.
Jim is quite naïve if he thinks Israel couldn’t possibly have a part in the latest poison gas attack. They more than any other party in the region want to keep US forces involved and this is a perfect way…..Difficult to believe that Assad is that stupid but could be. Al, the Saudis want Peace??? They are in cahoots with Israel attempting to get us to bomb Iran and tear up the nuclear treaty. They bomb daily and have killed thousands of civilians in Yemen while we have provided the planes, bombs and refueling capability. Fact is as I see it is that it will take years to straighten out the history of that region and who was responsible for what since there are so many parties with filthy hands including us! JMO
I can understand the Zionists wanting to rule the world, heck alot of people would want to?
But wanting to eradicate our species? That I dont understand.
That what it looks like we are being put in the position to do.
Now I have to wonder, who would want that? That doesnt make sense, nobody gains.
Sometimes I wonder, Is David Icke right?
War is a racket…….S. Butler………everyone should know that by now……a retard in uniform should know that after basic training……
Of course we have those who have never been in uniform, might think differently…..JMO
True, but McKinney has a pension to protect and more…
http://www.nwbclub.org/past-meetings.html
Jim McKinney, shared observations gained over more than 25 years of senior leadership in strategic planning and spoke about economic development, national security and analysis. He spoke about current topics confronting the nation. His insights made for a very informative program. In 2013, Jim completed a successful career as a Foreign Area Officer for the Department of Defense, serving in numerous US Embassies and in major US military commands in Europe, Asia and the Middle East. Jim was responsible for management of over $100 mil in development and humanitarian programs, created nation building plans for newly independent countries following the collapse of communism, and designed education and training exchange programs for host country military and civilian staff.
Now if you will excuse me, I got to get back to work to pay the taxes that fund all that McKinney nation building, plus his pension.
If that bio doesn’t say Swamp Creature I don’t know what does…
Maybe Jim knows Hilly………im was responsible for management of over $100 mil in development and humanitarian programs,
25 Years……..is a long time, …….for not knowing what is going on…….JMO
Your welcome for keeping you safe.
Safe? Ever heard of blow back?
You are part of a monstrous machine that is bankrupting the country and making enemies all of the world for Americans yet you are too brainwashed to begin to comprehend that.
Butler …….is still correct………War is a Racket……….
BTW……Where is the missing $21 TRILLION, you guys lost……..
Jerry, you think this will be contained to Syria if the Russians sink a U.S. ship?
There is the possibility that this is all about dumping the U.S. dollar and using Yuan for oil.
No, …..If, the deep state is in control, ….they will bleed us dry…..
The Rothschild have us so deep in debt, we can not possibly get out,….
Dumping the dollar has already started…
The Chinese are another problem.
All guesswork of course, but it seems likely that they want/need a big war to make the NWO possible and to make it stick.
Death cultists posing as ‘Jews’ and Zionist ‘Christians’ waiting for Armageddon and trying to hurry it along…duped by supremacists who want to lord it over all.
Donald and Putin both close to Chabad.
I don’t follow the day to day of the Russiagate farce. Has the iLLiberal Mass Media ever explored this angle to tie Trump to Russia?
If not, then the media offensive against Trump is just part of the show.
Trump Upset Victory Divinely Sent to Begin Messianic Process: Rabbis
They do expect a future.
Bushes have bought a few hundred thousand acres in Paraguay on top of the huge Guarani Aquifer, and Israel appears to be preparing a bolt hole in Argentina:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-israel-have-a-patagonia-project-in-argentina/5624434
“British billionaire Joe Lewis has acquired immense territories in the South of Argentina and even neighbouring Chile. His properties cover areas several times larger than the State of Israël. They are situated in Tierra del Fuego, at the extreme Southern point of the continent. In particular, they surround the Lago Escondido, which effectively denies access to the entire region, despite a legal injunction.
The billionaire has built a private airport with a two kilometre landing strip, in order to be able to receive civil and military aircraft.
Since the Falklands War, the Israëli army has been organising “holiday camps” (sic) in Patagonia for its soldiers. Between 8,000 and 10,000 of them now come every year to spend two weeks on Joe Lewis’ land.
While in the 1970’s, the Argentinian army noted the construction of 25,000 empty houses, which gave rise to the myth of the Andinia Plan, hundreds of thousands have been built today.
It is impossible to verify the state of the construction work, since these are private lands, and Google Earth has neutralised the satellite photographs of the area, just as it does with NATO’s military installations.
Neighbouring Chile has handed over a submarine base to Israël. Tunnels have been dug in order to survive the polar winter.”
You have to be pretty thick-headed to believe Assad did the gas attack. I think it was a false flag and never even happened. The other gas attacks were done by US and Israel backed rebels. It’s all about the pipelines, a Syrian central bank, and the control of the port.
On a humorous note: The UN Security Council votes to condem chemical weapons, today. They vote on this, today! 4-10-2018. (little late)
chartster, there is a video of the white helmets “saving” a child, right after it is the video of the making of that video.
I watched it yesterday, it is just one more.
It is all manufactured to create a war, the americans are using the tried and proven method americans love to believe.
This time might be different, the Russians,Chinese,Iran and even Turkey have drawn a red line of their own.
I notice a comment about “rebels” there are no “rebels” they are mercenaries, ALL of them.
Yes, mercinaries morphed into ISIS.
White Helmets = al Qaeda?
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Even more troubling, she [Vanessa Beeley] stressed, was the fact that the White Helmets are an organization which “by their own videos, by their own testimony, by their own social media accounts, and by the videos produced by the associated so-called rebel media,” are affiliated with jihadist militias, including al-Qaeda.
Beeley emphasized that in the course of her investigations, she has gone to Aleppo, including the area where the documentary was filmed. “This area was in the al-Ansari area of East Aleppo. We identified the buildings featured in the film as being the White Helmet headquarters in that particular area.”
In a twist which she said was not so surprising, Beeley pointed out that “as usual…next door to this center was the Nusra Front center, i.e. al-Qaeda in Syria. Next door to that was the Abu Amara building, Abu Amara [being] basically like the protection agency for Nusra Front, and known to be even more brutal than Nusra itself. Next door to that was the media center for both Nusra Front and Abu Amara. Bear in mind: this is in a line of buildings connected to the White Helmets center that features in a film promoting them as saviors and heroes.”
In other words, the journalist suggested, “if we just pull back a minute and review this film based on that information, fundamentally this film is showcasing al-Qaeda affiliates.”
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Oops, crossed my wires. This is the link for the above:
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Eva Bartlett from the previous link:
“There was not a single occasion in which I ever heard the medics (in Sunni Gaza) shout takbeer or Allahu Akbar upon rescuing civilians, much less intentionally stood on dead bodies, posed in staged videos, or any of the other revolting acts that the White Helmets have been filmed doing in Syria. They were too damn busy rescuing or evacuating the areas before another Israeli strike, and usually maintained a focused silence as they worked, communicating only the necessities. The only occasion I recall of screaming while with the medics, were the screams of civilians we collected and in particular the anguished shrieks of a husband helping to put the body parts of his dismembered wife onto a stretcher to be taken to the morgue. The medics I knew in Gaza were true heroes. The White Helmets, not a chance. They are gross caricatures of rescuers.”
When the FBI interviewed a non-jew who quite Urban Systems before 911, he said that the people there terrified him. He was told. . .
Give us 20 years and we will take over your media and destroy your country. Israeli employee of Urban Moving Systems September 2001 (From FBI Report of 9/11/01)
I think they are right on track and it’s not an accident
Yup, this is the United States of Israel, after all.
Yes, they own our government whores, but it’s not Israel, but Israhell.
Israhell belongs to the Israelies.
Wasn’t Mueller head of the FBI, at the time of 911……….
Cover up, after cover up……..people have to be really stupid….
Sibel Edmonds received the full Mueller treatment.
She was exposing the FBI long ago but was silenced.
Exactly right, Robert.
Appalling as it is, that is the reality we are looking square in the eye.
I wonder if it’s not ‘all over except for the shouting’.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Amen Jerry!
Best thing I have heard all day……John…!
I must say i agree 100% with everything said above by,
GH
BOB
EBOLAN
SILVERDOLLAR
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CHARTSTER
Mr Mc Kinney, IMO you just shot yourself in the foot.
Big AL. I suggest , in future you interview people who are unbiased , & know what they are talking about, & especially those who “DONT” kiss zionest’s butt.
BTW….I fear the US are going to play silly buggars overnight.
God help us all.
I agree, the risk of making a stupid move that spirals out of control is flashing red at the moment
Not once did I hear mention of what was America’s involvement with Syria in the first place.
Have we already forgot the ISIS narrative?
And I thought England had banned Fox Hunting!
Ha, Ha…….good one especially if you are a foxy lady……….
Off Topic:
Back to investigation into Michael Cohen.
It may be that Cohen has both Russian connections and may be dirty.
Cohen’s Father in law is Ukranian.Cohen partly owns both an ethanol business in Ukraine and a Taxi Cab business in New York. (There is a possibility that the New York FBI is investigating money-laundering via the Taxicab business.
Also Cohen has been a longtime friend of Russian immigrant to New York, Felix Sater who introduced Trump to Oleg Deripaska, who tried to get Trump involved with building a Trump Tower in Moscow. (Deripaska claims to be friends with Putin) Trump dropped contact with Deripaska in 2013 when he learned of the Putin connection. ( Felix Sater has both Clinton and mob connections, so it looks like Trump is being set up, possibly.)
I believe both Cohen and Sater deserve to be investigated.
Mueller SS……is the dirty one………….911…….
Mueller SeS……
Anybody in the ethanol business., is against big Oil, ……..
Think Petro Dollar oil……….
mon·ey laun·der·ing
noun
the concealment of the origins of illegally obtained money, typically by means of transfers involving foreign banks or legitimate businesses.
That could describe the FED/Rothchild ownership
In the Trump/Russia collusion investigation, Mueller appears to be following procedure correctly. When he came to the potential Cohen concerns, he asked permission of his superior at the FBI, who kicked it over to S. Manhattan, rather than allowing Mueller to proceed further. Like the witchunt or not, it is following correct procedure.
Unfortunately, it is not following the obvious Clinton connection.
On the other hand, I believe a Grand Jury is empanelled to look into the Clintons.
Justice may be grinding slowly, but it does appear to be grinding.
Mueller, and Rosenstien are making the rules up as they go……..JMO
Mueller, is endanger of getting fingered for covering up 911……all this is SMOKE AN MIRRORS
Robert Mueller’s team members are the people who destroyed Arthur Anderson. When the firm finally got to the Supreme Court, they overruled Mueller’s team for what they had done was unconstitutional. Well, they are back at it. This is what is wrong with our legal system. Prosecutors act with immunity and can do whatever they want FIRST and it is the burden of the great unwashed to go to court to argue what they have done was illegal. Then you cannot sue them. They are always ABOVE the law. That has to change if we are to go on a pretend we are a nation of free people. This time they are once again acting unconstitutionally and destroying the Attorney-Client Privilege.
Americans are Morons……if, they think MUELLER is doing anything LEGAL
Congress is a bunch of COVERUPS>>>>>>>>>
The Justice Department. Criminals ……….IS GRINDING SLOW…..for a purpose,…..
How long did it take the Teaparty case against the IRS, to be proven,……way after it destroyed the Party.
Mueller is part of the Deep State and he is now running lose with the power to destroy the country going far beyond the intended investigation. This is how they operate in the Department of Just Us. If they cannot prove a case against someone for what they thought they did, then comes phase two – prosecute them on anything else they can find. The mindset is that nobody is innocent – they just lack the evidence to prove they were right all along. So they then prosecute people for anything else they can find.
Connect the Dots……….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zOvDoxMNns
I often wonder what is the the more imminent, serious issue: the state of the global economy, or the apparent need to “defeat evil” in the world via conflict?
Also are these 2 issues a cause and affect relationship or are they created to deter us from greater truths… A hidden agenda if you like???
Al, not all opinions on every issue are valid or deserve a respectful hearing. If you haven’t figured that out yet, you probably ought to give up on politics.
Jim McKinney disrespected us by pissing on our leg and telling us its raining.
If he can’t imagine a motive for the US and Israel to launch a false flag, then he’s a moron.
Stop insulting our intelligence.
To say that the Israelis just want peace, days after they shoot hundreds of unarmed Palestinians? Talk about bad taste. I’m sure it was unintentional, but it shows where your biases are.
GH:
That would be 1100 unarmed protestors shot and 30 killed. With friends such as Israel, you don’t need enemies.
I tell ya, GH, I bet by all outward appearances old Jim would be a great guy to have a beer with and shoot the shit. I bet he has plenty of nice stories about his family. I bet he’s very polite and nice to his dog and would probably make a good neighbor (no noise or loud parties in the middle of the night, no suburban blight on his property, etc.).
See, that’s the scary thing. Someone can, by all outward appearances, be a fine person yet be a part of a monstrous machine that is destroying this country and taking down the rest of the world. And that person is so brainwashed he doesn’t even realize it.
And most people haven’t a clue. This is why we are doomed: Because evil is not always so obvious that even the average Ameroconned Sheeple can realize it.
Mark Levin discusses Mueller’s incompetency:
Yeah, Israel just wants peace:
Some quotes from the Chabad book The Tanya:
“The souls of the nations of the world (i.e. all Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc.), however, emanate from the other, unclean ‘kelipot’ (evil forces) which contain no good whatever.” (Tanya, New York/London: Kehot Publication Society, 1973, p. 5)
“However, the ‘kelipot’ (evil forces) are subdivided into two grades, one lower than the other. The lower grade consists of the three ‘kelipot’ which are altogether unclean and evil, containing no good whatever. From them flow and derive the souls of all the nations of the world (i.e. all Christians, Muslims, etc.), and the existence of their bodies, and also the souls of all living creatures that are unclean and unfit for consumption.” (ibid., Chapter 6, p. 25)
“To elucidate still further, it is necessary to clarify the meaning of the verse ‘The candle of God is the soul of (neshamah) of man.’ What it means is that the souls of Jews, who are called ‘man’, are, by way of illustration, like the flame of the candle, whose nature it is always to scintillate upwards….Now this is a general principle in the whole realm of holiness….This stands in direct contrast to the so-called ‘Kelipah’ (evil forces) and ‘sitra achara’ (the other, evil side), where from are derived the souls of the Gentiles….Therefore they (the Gentiles) are called ‘dead.’” (ibid., Chapter 19, pp. 77, 79)
Israel Shahak says:
Thus, Chabad lumps all Gentiles with pigs, snakes, worms, and all other “creatures that are unclean and unfit for consumption.” There are also comparisons to dogs: “Thus an Orthodox Jew learns from his earliest youth, as part of his sacred studies, that Gentiles are compared to dogs.” (Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, London: Pluto Press, 1994, p. 94) This serves as a theological basis behind the actions of Israel and the Zionist movement, to dehumanize the Palestinian “Gentiles” and legitimize their murder.
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On April 9, 2018 at 8:50 am,
GH says:
It would appear that many rabbis don’t even consider Chabadism to be Judaism:
It’s a dangerous cult, and they have a direct line to Trump.
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On April 9, 2018 at 8:54 am,
GH says:
Chabad Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson:
“The general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews.”
Chabad Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg:
‘Any trial based on the assumption that Jews and goyim are equal is a total travesty of injustice,’ he said. ‘We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.’” (“An Israeli Mayor Is Under Scrutiny,” The New York Times, June 6, 1989, p. 5)
“As for the Goyim….Zalman’s attitude (was): ‘Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.’…If every single cell in a Jewish body entails divinity, and is thus a part of G-d, then every strand of DNA is a part of G-d. Therefore, something is special about Jewish DNA. If a Jew needs a liver, can he take the liver of an innocent non-Jew to save him? The Torah would probably permit to take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by, to save the Jew. There is something infinitely more holy and unique about Jewish life than non-Jewish life.” (The Jewish Week, April 26, 1996; cited in Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, London: Pluto Press, 1999, pp. 43, 62)
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On April 9, 2018 at 9:04 am,
GH says:
On the other hand, disavowal is oftentimes not sincere, but rather merely only for damage control.
A couple weeks ago, “The Sephardic chief rabbi of Israel called black people “monkeys” during his weekly sermon on Saturday evening.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/
Israeli authorities are considering legal action, but is it more than transparent CYA damage control?
Also from the article:
“Israel has two chief rabbis. Yosef represents those with origins in the Iberian Peninsula, North Africa, and the Middle East, and David Lau represents Ashkenazic Jews, with origins in European lands of the Roman Empire.”
So this guy is no fringe figure.
Nor is this an anomaly. According to wikipedia, one of his predecessors, Ovadia Yosef, said:
“”The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews”
“Why are Gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why Gentiles were created.”
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them…With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but (God) will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant…That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Gentiles were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
Ovadia Yosef was an Iraqi-born Talmudic scholar, a posek, the Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel from 1973 to 1983, and the founder and long-time spiritual leader of Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Shas party.[4][5] Yosef’s responsa were highly regarded within Haredi circles, particularly among Mizrahi communities, among whom he was regarded as “the most important living halakhic authority”.
Some quotes from the Chabad book The Tanya:
“The souls of the nations of the world (i.e. all Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc.), however, emanate from the other, unclean ‘kelipot’ (evil forces) which contain no good whatever.” (Tanya, New York/London: Kehot Publication Society, 1973, p. 5)
“However, the ‘kelipot’ (evil forces) are subdivided into two grades, one lower than the other. The lower grade consists of the three ‘kelipot’ which are altogether unclean and evil, containing no good whatever. From them flow and derive the souls of all the nations of the world (i.e. all Christians, Muslims, etc.), and the existence of their bodies, and also the souls of all living creatures that are unclean and unfit for consumption.” (ibid., Chapter 6, p. 25)
“To elucidate still further, it is necessary to clarify the meaning of the verse ‘The candle of God is the soul of (neshamah) of man.’ What it means is that the souls of Jews, who are called ‘man’, are, by way of illustration, like the flame of the candle, whose nature it is always to scintillate upwards….Now this is a general principle in the whole realm of holiness….This stands in direct contrast to the so-called ‘Kelipah’ (evil forces) and ‘sitra achara’ (the other, evil side), where from are derived the souls of the Gentiles….Therefore they (the Gentiles) are called ‘dead.’” (ibid., Chapter 19, pp. 77, 79)
Israel Shahak says:
Thus, Chabad lumps all Gentiles with pigs, snakes, worms, and all other “creatures that are unclean and unfit for consumption.” There are also comparisons to dogs: “Thus an Orthodox Jew learns from his earliest youth, as part of his sacred studies, that Gentiles are compared to dogs.” (Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, London: Pluto Press, 1994, p. 94) This serves as a theological basis behind the actions of Israel and the Zionist movement, to dehumanize the Palestinian “Gentiles” and legitimize their murder.
Reply to this comment
On April 9, 2018 at 8:50 am,
GH says:
It would appear that many rabbis don’t even consider Chabadism to be Judaism:
chabad-mafia.com/
It’s a dangerous cult, and they have a direct line to Trump.
Reply to this comment
On April 9, 2018 at 8:54 am,
GH says:
Chabad Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson:
“The general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews.”
Chabad Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg:
‘Any trial based on the assumption that Jews and goyim are equal is a total travesty of injustice,’ he said. ‘We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing.’” (“An Israeli Mayor Is Under Scrutiny,” The New York Times, June 6, 1989, p. 5)
“As for the Goyim….Zalman’s attitude (was): ‘Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.’…If every single cell in a Jewish body entails divinity, and is thus a part of G-d, then every strand of DNA is a part of G-d. Therefore, something is special about Jewish DNA. If a Jew needs a liver, can he take the liver of an innocent non-Jew to save him? The Torah would probably permit to take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by, to save the Jew. There is something infinitely more holy and unique about Jewish life than non-Jewish life.” (The Jewish Week, April 26, 1996; cited in Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky, Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel, London: Pluto Press, 1999, pp. 43, 62)
Reply to this comment
On April 9, 2018 at 9:04 am,
GH says:
On the other hand, disavowal is oftentimes not sincere, but rather merely only for damage control.
A couple weeks ago, “The Sephardic chief rabbi of Israel called black people “monkeys” during his weekly sermon on Saturday evening.”
timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-americans-to-monkeys/
Israeli authorities are considering legal action, but is it more than transparent CYA damage control?
Also from the article:
“Israel has two chief rabbis. Yosef represents those with origins in the Iberian Peninsula, North Africa, and the Middle East, and David Lau represents Ashkenazic Jews, with origins in European lands of the Roman Empire.”
So this guy is no fringe figure.
Nor is this an anomaly. According to wikipedia, one of his predecessors, Ovadia Yosef, said:
“”The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews”
“Why are Gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why Gentiles were created.”
“In Israel, death has no dominion over them…With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but (God) will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant…That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Gentiles were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
Ovadia Yosef was an Iraqi-born Talmudic scholar, a posek, the Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Israel from 1973 to 1983, and the founder and long-time spiritual leader of Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Shas party.[4][5] Yosef’s responsa were highly regarded within Haredi circles, particularly among Mizrahi communities, among whom he was regarded as “the most important living halakhic authority”.
Yeah, they just want peace.
Paul Ryan is the leader of a dilapidated shack. What’s he going to run for next, the LOVE shack??
The KISS (keep it simple stupid) method of the Syria issue.
Oligarchs and their puppets want control of the central bank, the pipelines that will run through that country, and the port. It’s all about the money. (And control)
The exchange rate of the Syrian Pound (SYP) is 1 million pounds to 1,941.89 USD. So nineteen hundred dollars = 1 million of SYP. That would explain some things, I would think.
I just hope America will be so comprehensibly beaten that they go home.
Meanwhile in Europe……
The Trump administration worked Tuesday to rally international support for a possible military strike against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for an alleged chemical-weapons attack, drawing initial backing from France, the U.K. and Saudi Arabia, who vowed a forceful response.
As President Donald Trump and top administration officials conferred with international counterparts, the U.S. and France positioned guided-missile destroyers within firing range of Syria.
The expanding support for a unified response suggested that the U.S. and other nations could carry out a series of strikes more extensive than last year’s U.S. attack on a Syrian airfield. Possible options included salvos aimed at crippling Assad’s chemical-weapons capabilities, while not seeking to push him from power.
The complexity and scope of the military response is sure to pose a challenge for the U.S., which will have to decide whether to target military bases in Syria used by Russian and Iranian forces working with the Syrian military.
An expanded version of this report appears on WSJ.com.
CFS:
Are they going to call it the Coalition of the Witless?
Off topic; gold is approaching “that” region again. I wonder what shall happen here???
Please read this………….
https://www.rt.com/news/423757-syria-strike-alert-eurocontrol/
I never miss a show here, thanks Al, your a true American Patriot.
JM:
How is your spelling? Can you spell World War III?
RUSSIAN ENVOY: WE’LL RETURN FIRE FOR ANY U.S. LAUNCH ON SYRIA
Remind me one more time of how you can know who committed a chemical attack without even a cursory investigation?
Mystical Powers………….. 🙂
Al: “Jim’s boots on the ground experience is what gives him credibility in my opiinion. I consider it because most other opinions are based on emotion and what some folks want to believe.
My only point is to consider what Jim has to say and then make up your own mind. And, we certainly have some great minds here!”
Your first three sentences are wrong Al.
“Jim’s boots on the ground experience is what gives him credibility in my opinion.”
The list here represents millions of clueless ‘boots on the ground’ that have commited crimes against humanity since WW2.
Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-2010
https://fas.org/sgp//crs/natsec/R41677.pdf
Boots = very low bar for credibility. Ask Colon Powell.
“I consider it because most other opinions are based on emotion and what some folks want to believe.”
Very far from the truth, Al, as well as an insult to all those of us who bring facts day after day. Look at the thread last year where we gave Jim a hard time. Many posters pointed out flaws in his viewpoints. What did McKinney do? Instead of taking to the field of intellectual battle with valor, he squeaked something about being a good father and member of his community, as if that had anything to do with the matter at hand, and disappeared. Now he wraps himself in his 32 years in the military. As if the upper ranks aren’t full of treasonous bastards who have sold us all out.
“My only point is to consider what Jim has to say and then make up your own mind.” We’ve obviously all considered long ago what he has to say, and rejected it. Yet you keep serving him up like bad meatloaf.
I haven’t gone overboard here unintentionally, Al. Where facts and logic have failed, I’m hoping to shock some sense into you. It’s very late in the game for cutesy fence sitting. Do you think this kind of moral ambivalence will serve you when it counts?
I’m going to give my participation here a rest. It’s not exactly pleasant work digging into the machinations of the sickest of humanity day after day. Hopefully what I’ve shared has accelerated the learning curve for a few readers a bit, and they will continue uncovering and sharing with those they hold near and dear. And hopefully I haven’t sacrificed my life in doing it.
I’m going to take Excelsior’s advice, and focus on more pleasant things like building a farm, far, far from dangerous do-gooders like Jim McKinney.
Safe travels, ……hope all stays well with you…..thanks for all you have provided.
GH,
You post some really good stuff and excersize good critical thinking and questions. I personally have enjoyed and learned from your posts (even when we agree to disagree), you will be missed. Best wishes on the farm, and drop in to give me hell anytime. 🙂
GH:
You will be missed. You offer a lot and I applaud standing up to Al and JM. Al is going to get tired of all the splinters in his butt if he doesn’t stop sitting on the fence.
Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.
Really sorry to see you go GH.
Cant say enough positive about your posting.
Best to you.
Wow, when assumptions are challenged, turn to hating the messenger and running? Did you listen again to the show? Al and I did not advocate or support anything, just discussed the situation, based on my experience being the former director for International Military Affairs at US Army Central in the Middle East.
Farm life is good, hope it goes well – but when a progressive or oligarchic led government takes it away because you hide from defending it, talk to me, I will still be willing to help you take it back, whether you call me an a-hole or not.
I hate the US fighting in the middle east, but it doesn’t change that its gonna happen. It is interesting how many libertarians (I am one too fundamentally, by the way) don’t open their minds to reality sometimes. Is that as bad as the leftist who wish for a perfect world that doesn’t exist?
Debate is good, closed minds are bad. Hope you stay aware, and successful.
You cover for the evil that the US is committing under the influence of Israel, Jim. That’s what you’re doing when you pass off unbelievable garbage like Skripal as fact.
I don’t think you’re a bad guy, but I think you don’t have a clue. Plenty just like you in my family, and I love them all the same.
While you’ve been taking orders and being brainwashed by the military, I’ve been studying independently and thinking critically. And I haven’t been collecting a paycheck for it.
You turned tail and ran a year ago without addressing many valid points people made. I’ve been posting most days since then, and I as well as others post a lot of info every single day that shows where you are wrong.
This isn’t running. It’s making a statement: enough bullshit.
I’ve been against every war that has been fought by the US since I had the age of reason. And history vindicates me. There is ONE war that is worth fighting, we have already been in it for a long time without even knowing it, and we’re getting our asses kicked. That is the war Jewish supremacists are waging on us, enslaving us with their money and media monopolies, rotting our culture with Cultural Marxism, and draining our wealth and vitality with standing armies and perpetual warfare.
I’m sure you would defend me, as I would you, if the situation were clear. But I think you’re working on making self goals.
Aside from making a statement, it’s also a much-needed rest.
Very heart-heavy material, and a most grave situation.
Thanks for your nice comments, everyone. Likewise. A great crowd.
No hard feelings, Al. I meant what I said, I respect what you do a lot, and that you provide a platform like this is a huge contribution to all that is good. I just think you’re a bit confused.
God bless you GH.
I may be confused and I may be simply willing to listen to all.
I have to confess that I do make mistakes and I would not be a good person if I did not admit that.
I claim many of your convictions although I got there by a different road……….What you added to this page one can’t replace…..Thanks much for your input. Take care of yourself.
Useful discourse is always valuable unless you have a small ego and try to increase it by putting other people down.
Now, nobody can dispute this statement.
Thanks CFS, I personally like David and am very envious of his lifestyle. If you recall, he was a frequent guest on our Show a few years back.
Connect the DOTS……….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zOvDoxMNns
Thanks Jerry, I watched this.
Now in this comment back to you I want to ask those folks who who don’t agree with my philosophy of listening to both sides of a story.
Let’s assume that I am an ardent Clinton and progressive supporter. And let’s assume that I watched this interview and responded angrily that Joe is totally insane and does not deserve to be given a forum and if you feel that he deserves to be given a forum you are a bad person who is just plain stupid.
Owl, I do not think , I said , we should not listen to both sides……
I listen to a lot of people, before, I make up my mind, and try to do the extra research prior to committing.
If I was referring directly to you, I made a mistake and certainly apologize.
No problem……I always enjoy the show…….. and thanks for the follow up….best JOOTB
GH AND Moriarty…..U R THE VOICE OF CONSCIOUS IN A COUNTRY OF NO CONSCIOUS….
Off topic:
http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-victor-pinchuk-trump-foundation-donation-michael-cohen-2018-4
Mueller is raiding Cohen’s offices to try to cover up Pinchuk’s $25 million donations to the Clinton Foundation. AND HILLARY LIED about never having met Pinchuk.
(She only invited him to dinner at her home with Abedin.)
Standard CORRUPT operating procedure of Democrat scum is to accuse their opposition of what they did.