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Mr. Irish, that is exactly what she said.
IT, I thought you were Ebolan, and now Al has confirmed this. LOL! DT
People often mistake me and IT for Irish Ebolan. 🙂
And Mr. Big Al Korelin,
Why do you have the “Hottest Female Criminals” on your site? See the screen shot below. It is what I see when I bring up this page.
Wonder who goes first…… Obama, they are coming for you….
Next on Netflix,,,,,Susan serves the Rice on Obama
Rice O’Roni…Rice Obammie…Steamed Rice…
Yes OOTB it is about time. Let’s see just how this turns out! Any prediction?
What do you boys make of this? Listen to the audio.
Jerry? Anyone?
Well, they have to buy something with the $21Trillion…..
It was possibly the X-44-A.
Currently Lockhead-Martin has 3 highly classified projects under way in that area of the country. It is unusual for them to operate openly in daytime, but they may be close to divulging one of the projects to the public.
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Yes, they are so classified, …..You know about them………LOL
That design has been out for a long time………..at least 10 yrs.
Jerry, Yes , I taught some of the people that design them.
(Or at least some of the electronics in them)
All my research was ARPA funded, by the way.
Now, that the info is out about the overspending….and the lost money, ….the MIC, has to start displaying something to humor the public………..what a hoot…….
Jerry, You expect me to put up classified photos? Dream on.
I almost got that confused with AARP…….. 🙂
Very interesting news, Jerry. Thank you.
American politicianss have simply decided to side with Israel. I am not sure that will every change OOTB!
Politicians…..are filling their pockets with cash……as long as their is war, they profit.
Politicians and religion are as far apart as day and night.
Al:
Actually American Congressmen and Senators have sold their souls to Israel in the same way Trump did. After piously claiming not to need the money from a gathering of Jews, he sold out to Adelson for $30 million.
Israel controls the US political system by recycling the money we hand them for weapons. Congress has no more ethics than does Trump. They are all whores who sold the American people out. They aren’t siding with Israel, Israel owns them.
If it doesn’t, the US is toast Al.
Israel is no friend to the US and never has been, while their offenses against us are myriad.
If you haven’t listened to Benjamin Friedman’s 1961 speech, you really owe it to yourself to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx1Rj6fHCNE
What part of their enslaving us through central banking and propaganda is difficult to understand?
Jews DO Control The Media
By Manny Friedman
Bob, Al will never believe you, no matter how many times you try, his mind is like a steel trap. He pretends to listen but he just can’t challenge his beliefs, it’s not there now and it will never be.
From the Manny Friedman article:
“Our larger battle, the harder battle, is elevating the world spiritually.”
For Friedman to say this in an article claiming control of the open-air sewer called Hollywood is a classic example of just how out of touch with reality these arrogant, true believing supremacists are.
Who runs Hollywood? C’mon
December 19, 2008|JOEL STEIN
I must say, I get pretty grouchy with my fellow Americans for their willful ignorance about what is right in front of their faces, as they flush the country my ancestors invested so much in right down the toilet.
To express resignation to the fact that our politicians serve Israel, perhaps for ever, is highly offensive to my American sensibilities.
I, at one time, was very interested in the question of UFO’s. Now, Eddy, I have too many other issues to deal with and UFO’s are simply not a priority to me!
Al, do the UFO’s control Israel or vice versa? And why is this night different from all other nights? Remember to put some lamb’s blood on your front door tonight as the Angel of Death is coming to every house to take the eldest son.
Big Al, when you stated that too many people in our country are stupid, I believe it would be better stated that they are ignorant, meaning that they don’t know enough about the issue to be an informed voter. Too many in our country know more about the trivial and things of little import and not enough about basic economics, accurate history, critical thought, etc.
Frederick Bastiat once opined that humans are pain avoiders and if they can get what they want at someone else’s expense, they will. If we add that human tendency to general ignorance of basic facts and principles, it is a recipe for disaster in the society.
It is too easy to vote for politicians who promise utopia and free services for all than to take personal responsibility for one’s needs. The sad thing is that was is promised can never be attained and the ignorant don’t know that, or if they do, they don’t care.
If wishes were horses we would all ride!
I really appreciate your comment Pardu. You obviously know that I completely agree with virtually everything that you wrote. Thank you for the comment, my friend.
Why don’t people face it.
The simple fact is: Best healthcare and government single payer system are mutually incompatible.
Sally Pipes should recognize the FACT that long waits are a way of controlling COST.
Privatizing the VA system might improve service and even cut cost, BUT IT IS STILL NOT AFFORDABLE UNIVERSALLY.
Sorry to “shout”, but wanting universal healthcare, does not mean it is affordable.
I have experienced healthcare in the UK and US first hand and I know the US system delivers the better care, if you can afford it. I further know that because the UK health system is “free”, it is abused by stupid people who want a free treatment for every little thing. It is only creating a “wait” that relieves the stupidity.
CFS, healthcare is a subject that will never be agreed up by all. Sorry, but it will not hppen.
CFS is a international spy…lol ONG PLEASE
Greg Hunter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OTOMFuRm1M
Interesting that Israel uses their F35 “Adir” (Mighty one) aircraft.
I thought they only had 9 of them (as of beginning of this year)
I don’t think they have the capability to knock out the Iranian Nuke research, by air attack. (Even if the U.S. sold the big bunker buster bombs, Israel does not have delivery capability.)
CFS:
You could knock out the Iranian nuclear weapons program with a mosquito armed with a fart because there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program. But you knew that.
And the only country in the Middle East armed with nuclear weapons is of course Israel. But you knew that and just hope that the rest of the board is too stupid to understand who you troll for.
The US has a law called the Symington Act that prohibits giving foreign aid to countries who are nuclear armed but refuse to abide by the NPT.
The Symington Act
Good one, thanks Robert. I wasn’t aware of this.
Trolling or cognitive dissonance, I don’t know. But he sets ’em up, we knock ’em down.
Strikes me as a useful didactic arrangement.
Very Interesting concerning…….Symington Act
Meanwhile underwater:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Russian ships are skulking around underwater communications cables, causing the U.S. and its allies to worry the Kremlin might be taking information warfare to new depths.
Is Moscow interested in cutting or tapping the cables? Does it want the West to worry it might? Is there a more innocent explanation? Unsurprisingly, Russia isn’t saying.
But whatever Moscow’s intentions, U.S. and Western officials are increasingly troubled by their rival’s interest in the 400 fiber-optic cables that carry most of world’s calls, emails and texts, as well as $10 trillion worth of daily financial transactions.
“We’ve seen activity in the Russian navy, and particularly undersea in their submarine activity, that we haven’t seen since the ’80s,” Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, commander of the U.S. European Command, told Congress this month.
Without undersea cables, a bank in Asian countries couldn’t send money to Saudi Arabia to pay for oil. U.S. military leaders would struggle to communicate with troops fighting extremists in Afghanistan and the Middle East. A student in Europe wouldn’t be able to Skype his parents in the United States.
All this information is transmitted along tiny glass fibers encased in undersea cables that, in some cases, are little bigger than a garden hose. All told, there are 620,000 miles of fiber-optic cable running under the sea, enough to loop around the earth nearly 25 times.
Most lines are owned by private telecommunications companies, including giants like Google and Microsoft. Their locations are easily identified on public maps, with swirling lines that look like spaghetti. While cutting one cable might have limited impact, severing several simultaneously or at choke points could cause a major outage.
The Russians “are doing their homework and, in the event of a crisis or conflict with them, they might do rotten things to us,” said Michael Kofman, a Russian military expert at nonprofit research group CNA Corp.
It’s not Moscow’s warfighting ships and submarines that are making NATO and U.S. officials uneasy. It’s Russia’s Main Directorate of Deep Sea Research, whose specialized surface ships, submarines, underwater drones and mini subs conduct reconnaissance, underwater salvage and other work.
One ship run by the directorate is the Yantar. It’s a modest, 354-foot oceanographic vessel that holds a crew of about 60. It most recently was off South America’s coast helping Argentina search for a lost submarine.
Parlamentskaya Gazeta, the Russian parliament’s publication, last October said the Yantar has equipment “designed for deep-sea tracking” and “connecting to top-secret communication cables.” The publication said that in September 2015, the Yantar was near Kings Bay, Georgia, home to a U.S. submarine base, “collecting information about the equipment on American submarines, including underwater sensors and the unified (U.S. military) information network.” Rossiya, a Russian state TV network, has said the Yantar can not only connect to top-secret cables, but could cut them and “jam underwater sensors.”
Thanks for all of the information, Professor.
Only in California!
LOS ANGELES (AP) — A Los Angeles judge has determined that coffee companies must carry an ominous cancer warning label because of a chemical produced in the roasting process.
Superior Court Judge Elihu Berle said Wednesday that Starbucks and other companies failed to show that benefits from drinking coffee outweighed any risks. He ruled in an earlier phase of trial that companies hadn’t shown the threat from the chemical was insignificant.
The Council for Education and Research on Toxics, a nonprofit group, sued Starbucks and 90 other companies under a state law that requires warnings on a wide range of chemicals that can cause cancer. One is acrylamide, a carcinogen present in coffee.
“Defendants failed to satisfy their burden of proving … that consumption of coffee confers a benefit to human health,” Berle wrote in his proposed ruling.
That’s why I drink organic green tea or dandelion tea to which I add ginger, ground cloves, cinnamon, moringa, aloe vera juice, coconut oil, honey, and lemon juice, all organic of course.
Bonzo, I too drink green tea but not exclusively!
I also drink Trader Joe’s hot chocolate for dessert.
There are a lot of actions eminating from California that can be labeled “Only in California”
Ridiculous. Acrylamides are present in many foods. Yes, it is best to minimize consumption, but one would be better off avoiding things like fried potatoes and breakfast cereal than skipping coffee, especially considering other health negatives of the former.
http://drbenkim.com/articles-acrylamide.html
Additionally, coffee appears to have many health benefits, though it may not be a good idea for people with gluten intolerance (cross reactivity according to Chris Kresser) or adrenal fatigue issues.
I’m not in the coffee industry, but I have taken some interest in the question of whether coffee is a net positive or negative, so here are a few links. I’m not a health professional, just someone with a biology background and an ongoing interest in nutrition and natural health reading. DYODD.
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XXXXXXXknowledgeofhealth.com/new-found-way-to-prevent-blinding-cataracts/
XXXXXXXarticles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/03/20/coffee-reduce-dementia-risk.aspx
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The Chemical Facts:
Start with the biggest known risk factor for cancer — smoking — which generates acrylamide , among other chemicals.
In the diet, French fries, potato chips, crackers, cookies, cereal and other high-carbohydrate foods contain it as a byproduct of roasting, baking, toasting or frying.
Food and Drug Administration tests of acrylamide levels found they ranged from 175 to 351 parts per billion for six brands of coffee tested; the highest was for one type of decaf coffee crystals.
By comparison, French fries at one fast food chain ranged from 117 to 313 parts per billion, depending on the location tested. Some commercial fries had more than 1,000 ppb.
Even some baby foods contain acrylamide, such as teething biscuits and crackers. One brand of organic sweet potatoes tested as having 121 parts per billion.
WHAT’S THE RISK?
The “probable” or “likely” carcinogen label is based on studies of animals given high levels of acrylamide in drinking water. But people and rodents absorb the chemical at different rates and metabolize it differently, so its relevance to human health is unknown.
A group of 23 scientists convened by the WHO’s cancer agency in 2016 looked at coffee — not acrylamide directly — and decided coffee was unlikely to cause breast, prostate or pancreatic cancer, and that it seemed to lower the risks for liver and uterine cancers. Evidence was inadequate to determine its effect on dozens of other cancer types.
I’m surprised!
CFS…..I know……Coffee and cannabis……..there is a cannabinoid pathway in the human biochemistry that is upregulating in a positive way for 100’s of biochemical pathways…A true positive epigenetic boost…..
Not being a scientific person lpr, is your comment positive or negative regarding coffee. Cannabis, I really don’t care about.
Thank you for the comment.
Cannabis has amazing medical properties Al, and one doesn’t need to get high to benefit from all of them.
Anti-inflammation, analgesic, anti-dementia, anti-cancer to name a few.
Oh, and a huge one, anxiolytic — i.e. anti-anxiety. This is CBD, no high.
Apparently more effective than any pharmaceutical for anti-inflammatory effect in head trauma.
Looks like the benefits are there, Professor.
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/05/10/the-medical-cartel-is-king-in-a-globalist-world-3/
I noticed in the discussion one time it is healthcare one time medical care being discussed…They are NOT interchangeable or synonymous terms……All consumers MUST own the fact that medical care is NOT healthcare….Health has a definition….It is a state of optimal homeostasis of that organism……Medical has nothing to do with optimizing homeostasis…In fact it moves the organism futher from that point of maximum homeostasis…Keeping say an unhealthy persons heart pumping every four hour pill dose is not health care or a miracle it is medical dependency and enslavement….
If there was a way via ingestion of something to maintain or increase telomere length, would that be consider healthcare or medical care?
If that substance increased telomere length could it even be called optimal homeostatis?
or super-optimal homeostasis perhaps.
Professor, what language are you speaking?
scientifically precise English.
Would you prefer some other language?
I suppose it gets into semantics.
““Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”
― Hippocrates
But I agree with lpr, most medical care today is not about health. It is about creating lifelong customers and profit maximization. Probably 80% or 90% of mainstream medical ‘care’ could be avoided if people understood and put into practice a truly healthy lifestyle, and recurred to natural medicines when appropriate.
CFS, I have heard that there are a few candidates for telomere lengthening. Perhaps high quality whey extract…I forget which others.
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/search/google-cse#gsc.q=telomere
I take goat whey when I arise each morning.
You point is very well taken lpr. Thank you for the comment!
https://www.physiciansweekly.com/doctors-losing-publics-trust/……the folks recognize that they are patsies in a failed methodology called allopathic medicine…
again, the speaker is talking her own industry loosing game….they are making fortunes
how you pay for the allopathic medical establishment will never matter…there will never be enough funds to support a method in which peoples heart disease diabetes cancer not only is not prevented but requires future more expensive therapies to attempt to medically stabilize…
If a hedge fund trading method results in loosing all the investors money year after year…If those managers do not refine their trading method to have a positive expectancy then does it matter how much money is thrown at the hedge fund?…..no, there will never be enough money to have a positive outcome because the fund trading method has a negative expectancy
.they are making fortunes…………DITTO
You make an interesting point lpr. If I understand what you are saying, and I think that I do, I agree with you.
It is all in God’s hands.
Al-you need to have a guest on your show that is not part of acting like this Apocolypto medical show is normal necessary or real..
I followed the link ; read a bit of the material; and, then bookmarked this site as I happen to find it to be interesting.
Mercola is a health hero. One can learn a huge amount by following his articles.
So of course he is accused being a quack by those who compromise our health in order to steal our money.
Of course, that is not to say Mercola is perfect, I find his sales pitches tiresome, but that is what finances his educational efforts.
I read Mercola’s emails daily and have learned much of value. I do not buy anything from him as Swanson’s is cheaper.
fof the cost of allopathic medicine one could have established preventative methods as the hallmark standard of a good
for a ten thousand fold less cost to the public a method of prevention could have been established plus people would actually be healthy and normal…Rather than sick and desperate and dependent on frequent costly medical fixes…..The allopathic medical establishment wants those taxes on your existence called medical premiums to keep you poor…They want to impoverish your health and then give you medical care enslavement..this is no accident…..Re-read Charles dickens work of this same populous in England…several or our founding fathers wanted a constitutional clause to prevent the same exploitive killing of the masses to be prevented in the new colonies…it did not occur and now we have a monopoly cartel of medical killing that Charles dickens could not have imagined
They want to impoverish your health and then give you medical care enslavement..this is no accident…………..DITTO
Talk about an interesting business plan, lpr!
That’s exactly right, lpr.
It’s a holocaust in plain sight. Tens, hundreds of millions, even billions, of lives damaged and cut short.
as good of a discussion as any to raise your cockles:
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2018/03/13/shocker-comparing-deaths-from-medical-treatment-vitamins-all-us-wars/
final comment from….Allopathic medicine is an arrogant exploitive fraud when syudied from the hapless patients point of view……Western diet and medicine when exported to previously healthy cultures rapidly leads to the destruction of the vitality and vibrance of these cultures….Study, Weston Price, this should trigger some deep concerns regarding the current mechanized industrialised centralized suffocatingly unnatural approach to allopathic medical treatment
I read the article and signed up for his newsletter.
Thanks, lpr.
Rapoport, another hero helping break the spell of the propaganda against us.
Okay lpr. I signed up for this one also.
Thanks for bringing all this up.
Looks like lpr and I are very much on the same page.
Weston Price, another hero, and his book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration should be on everyone’s reading list.
https://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Physical-Degeneration-Weston-Price/dp/0916764206/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_4
Don’t forget Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, and Jonathan Landsman and Dr. Joel Wallach and Ben Fuchs. Stay healthy my friends.
Sorry A** human being……..COmey
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-30/james-comey-cahing-upcoming-book-and-lecture-tour
Comey has had an interesting career – serving as deputy special counsel to the Senate Whitewater Committee in 1996, where he admitted that Hillary Clinton had obstructed the investigation into real-estate loans authorized while Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, but decided not to prosecute her due to lack of “intent.”
SES……..Lifer
He also earned $6 Million dollars in one year as Lockheed’s top lawyer – the same year the egregiously behind schedule and overbudget F-35 manufacture
CONMAN COMEY>>>>>>>>>>
Where there is a rotten system, there is always someone who will take advantage of it.
Just some thoughts: Sally waves a broad brush when talking about the VA Med. system. I’ve used the VA for 11 years now and I”m more impressed with my PA that I see annually than all the damn doctors I’ve ever seen in my life. True, the VA is swamped with too much supply of old patients. So……….why don’t we quit making veterans? Don’t forget, all Veterans also are covered with Medicare when they reach 65 so many of us have in a sense, double coverage. I’ve got an advantage plan and at least 1/2 of the years I’ve had it have never billed anything against it.
The real problem as I see it is that many of us don’t take care of our selves in our younger life and eventually life catches up with us and we need all the expensive care but can’t pay for it. I don’t know if there is a good answer for everyone. Probably not.
Things won’t be any better under a new inexperienced manager, even if he is an Admiral. JMO https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/29/trumps-veterans-pick-agency-451219
I suspect that even if we take care of ourselves in younger life, all we do is shift the age curve up. Thus we will still need the same amount of care, just at older ages.
I think the problem is cost-benefit ratio.
Personally I want the best care available and damn the cost….but I can afford to pay for it.
When my aches and pains of old age grow worse and I’m tired of life, perhaps I won’t care and will accept an average standard of care. Until then, the standard of care in England was not acceptable to me.
My previous statement sounds like I’m picking on the N.H.S. and socialized medicine in England.
Let me also state the standard of healthcare in Indiana compared with California is also a major reason to change my location in the U.S. (I also got tired of shoveling snow!)
Limit the budget and you limit the healthcare; we probably all have different points at which we decide enough is enough.
Good thoughts. Your thought about the age curve shifting sounds logical. But, I’m not sure 30-40 years of diabetic care equals a typical heart attack at 90. Guess we’ll never know….
Yes, we all do have different priorities and standards,CFS!
the point of preventive method rather than allopathic medical method approach is to sidestep the entire class of preventable chronic degenerative illness, as in heart dx, cancers, diabetes, autism, etc…prevention as a method is superior in all ways to allopathic dx managements
Those are the people who I was talking about Silverdollar. Those who look to others for answers. And, more importantly, those who don’t take personal responsibility for themselves!
Also, why do people think even that mother nature needs to be or can be improved upon with man-made synthetic almost arbitrary interventions..it cannot…look at the unintended consequeces (or intended) of incrementally changed the entire food supply to an irradiated death mass……now people are all excited aboud genetic modification and enhancements…..Promthethius I am so sorry
lpr, do you think man’s lot was better a few thousand years ago when life expectancy was in the 40s?
Length of life:
Julius Caesar: 55
Augustus Caesar: 49
Alexander the Great: 33
Cleopatra: 39
Pliny the elder: 56
Pliny the younger: 42
Indoor plumbing was a bit of an improvement.
b, you think?
hi CFS-those articles I posted do address this…..what people die of now at generally older ages did not exist in those times….heart dx, cancer, diabetes…they died of random infections and trauma etc…..heart dx cancers diabetes obesity autism(soaring rates) are fallout from this failed false arbitrary commerce oriented monopolistic corporate greed driven orifice called allopathic….you are being exploited regarding your most precious personal asset through propaganda information /misinformation campaigns by media(corporate fascists) in ways Georbels would be amased of….
To some extent I agree with you.
However, it is difficult to separate oneself away from the poisons of modern society.
Just the population of the earth has become so great that trace amounts of strange chemicals are everywhere, no matter how careful one tries to be. I don’t watch TV….have not for over 20 years. I found it too easy to waste too much time. On the other hand I often have two radios tuned to different stations on simultaneously much of the time and swap attention as interest takes me, typically while on the computer or using my sight for something else.
ipr..what did you say?
“failed false arbitrary commerce oriented monopolistic corporate greed driven orifice”
Thats a mouthful and a 1/2.
Interesting enough lpr, I have a PhD Psychologist friend who completely agrees with you. I, personally, am spend a huge amount of time with folks in the medicl community in Bellingham because of a very rare disease that my wife was dignosed with about three years ago. (Amyloidosys) So far I have very little problem with those docs.
Al-there in lies the tradgedy…..the system bread and butter is avoiding prevention and then managing reversible preventable degenerative chronic illness for ever until do part…annuity stream revenus…but, the science exists on the more rare disorders to manage them or cure them…the logic is obvious…..giving the masses life time preventable illness is like a golden fleece of stolen profetering…While curing a rare ailment that cannot support an entire industry cashlow/profit incentive is a feather in the cap for the exploiters …throwing crumbs to the starving crowd…..And I am sorry to hear of that ailment your wife has and am thankful she is well cared for….
CFS, this argument, while common, is a red herring.
Prior to the 20th century most people died of infectious disease and occupational accidents. Now those ailments have been replaced with chronic degenerative disease resulting from lifestyle.
In prior centuries those who did not succumb to infection or accident lived long healthy lives without the degenerative issues.
Now we can have the best of both worlds.
Which is very much not in the interest of the pharmaceutical and insurance industries, as well as many other industries that benefit from the current state of affairs, like the agrochemical, petroleum, grocers association, etc.
Also, a population fatigued and weakened by chronic degenerative disease is more easily manipulated by the minuscule minority that rules over us, both because they are broke, and because they are less resistant to mental manipulation.
https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_buettner_how_to_live_to_be_100?utm_source=Science+worth+knowing&utm_campaign=36f9b714fd-Science+worth+knowing_12-21-17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_83c20124eb-36f9b714fd-297190633
http://www.kereport.com/2018/03/29/sally-pipes-ceo-pacific-research-institute-discusses-american-medical-system-preview-upcoming-weekend-radio-show/
allopathic medical providers will never discuss this…None are taught it…they are taught to sell phamacuetical pills to destroy your homeostasis….they must do this it is the method they legally are bought into
lpr, I put a question above on telomeres, just to make sure I understand you.
CFS…I am not trying to come off as a know it all…..but I survived two great challenges in my life…..both were resolved by me and it required courage and faith in ones analytic ability to take my road less traveled…no doubt the medical system was killing me…now I am the healthiest 63 yo I know….
The ketogenic diet along with intermittent fasting protocols are the only thing know to diminish the rate of telomere shrinkage which eventually results in a termination of healthy cell /division/replication and the end ensues..
the alternatives to the medical allopathic failure methods fill libraries and are not in the medical allopathic training/ brainwashing….why?..The funding by corporate pharmacueticals who end up on the curriculum committees vote out all other than allopathic corporate procedure..medicine is the bastard selfserving stepchild of this corporate body politic…medicine is about deriving profit from you and not providing you a pathway to natural health…it will always be that way because pharma is the biggest contributor to senator political war chests
Pharma spends more on lobbyists than the defense and oli companies combined.
lpr, I’m not disagreeing totally with you.
I believe it is best to know as much as possible about everything, including health and medical care. Hopefully, being able to choose the best path from all alternatives.
As I often say: “It is what you don’t know you don’t know that gets you.”
Some things, I don’t know about and don’t worry about.
But most aspects of living with the best health possible, I care about.
Obviously I must have done something sub-optimal in the past, since I seem vulnerable to cancer, but it was not by doing something I knew was wrong.
I have never smoked in my life. I have always tried to live in a good environment, never in big cities. I have always had significant produce raised in my own or my parent’s gardens. My father’s parents were dairy farmers.
I always try to wean myself of any drugs as quickly as possible.
Like lpr, I’m not trying to come off as if I know it all. But extensive study for a digestive problem I had opened my eyes, and I’m just about as fond of studying natural health as I am the markets.
Obviously we will all get old and die, and there will be suffering in many cases. But I do believe that the suffering can be vastly less, and productive life significantly extended.
We’ve all done plenty that is sub-optimal for health knowingly and willfully. But we’ve also all been grossly deceived and kept in the dark about how to optimize our health.
An effective public education campaign about real nutrition and healthy lifestyle would revolutionize the situation in the US and wherever similar diets and lifestyles have been adopted.
It would also be a huge blow against the globalists, who want us eating their garbage food out of their hands. A few companies control the world grain supply, for instance.
Globalists also = bankers, while medical bills are the number one cause of bankruptcy, and presumably therefore one of the largest if not the largest sources of personal debt.
I believe there is plenty that is good and useful, even virtually miraculous, in modern/allopathic/mainstream medicine.
But so much is sub-optimal if not downright damaging.
to boost your natural resistance to cancer is necessary..Honestly I would use the health ranger and mercola sites at my knowledge base…..health ranger is vegan plus supps. and detox….Mercola is Paleolithic/ ketogenic/intermitant fast plus supps. and detox
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I saw a tv propaganda show once called House…I will get back and explain in depth how that corporate sponsored propaganda show selling allopathic medicine cleaverly sold medicine to the public….some time this wekend…..I appreciate this site as a forum for self expresion
I will be interested in hearing what you have to say about this.
My Uncle Joe was a doctor and surgeon. He served on a navy hospital ship in the Pacific during the war at Pelelieu and Okinawa and other battles. He once warned me to stay away from doctors. I take no prescriptions, vaccines, or over the counter drugs and have not had a cold since 2010.
Seriously bonzo?
Seriously, Al. And if you don’t believe it you will go to Hell. No, wait, the the Pope just said there is no Hell, so I guess we are safe.
stefan molyneux…end of empire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmZ38U-Zgmw
CFS- yes that is what I am speaking to…..just spend time in random medical doctors offices…..or hospitals……you will as I did , say: wow this cannot make sense or be right!…and sadly, sadly it is a disaster as Molyneux speaks of…..That book ‘propaganda’ by Edward bernays…:it is much easier to brainwash a person than to convince him he is brainwashed…..hence the new normal is always being tweeked as normative by the media propogandists
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CFS–I listen again to Molyneux….That is the analysis I have been missing ..It is not simply mis-judgment and mis-alocation of resources in a dying civilization as in Apocalypto (thanks Mel)….. it is antirational thinking while acting out of existing assumed rational but actually destructive systems in a rational way……..destructive status quo antirational behavior…….eg..yes like the medical industrial disease industry
Jerry, in case you are interested…..comments about gnosticism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-ZfhWqAZ8I&feature=youtu.be&t=1380
Also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFthSSYXfB8
The problem with Alan West is he does not deal well with morality.
see comments below…….
The founder of “Christian” Gnosticism was Valentinus, who was born in Carthage about 100 A.D. He became connected with the Christian church. After almost being elected Bishop of Rome (i.e.: pope) he drifted into open heresy. Apparently he was a poet; some have credited him with authorship of the earliest version of the poetical Gnostic homily Gospel of Truth. Desiring to present apostolic authority for his teaching (without which he knew Christians would ignore him), he claimed that he had received instruction from a follower of Paul named Theodas or Theudas. Even if this Theodas really had been a follower of Paul, it would not validate Valentinus’ teaching, for we know that some followers of Paul fell away, for he and other apostles warn of those who shipwrecked their faith and of wolves in sheep’s clothing who will come among them. With the deaths of the apostles and their immediate successors, falsehood found it easier to take root. There were no eyewitnesses left to repudiate false claims.
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
CFS…..thanks for thinking of me…..concerning the above…..
A simple reply, would be found in scripture
As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Alexandria
lot of cosmopolitan Alexandrians of the time, worshipped the Greek gods too. Philo believed that the two worlds were not irreconciliable and the Logos was his attempt at melding Yahwism with the Greek vision of God. The Greeks, armed with the powerful philosophy of Plato, and later Aristotle, believed that God was inherently “unknowable.” He was beyond human understanding and all attempts to describe God would end in failure. However, a glimpse of God could be attained through rational thinking and deep meditation. If one could achieve the Hermetic level of mystical awareness as chronicled in the Poimandres, one will be able to experience God.
Gnosticism was largely an attack on historical Christianity or an attempt to infiltrate or undermine it. Gnostics quoted from or alluded to most of the writings which entered our New Testament and wrote in opposition to them or distorted them. In order to entice Christians into accepting their books, Gnostics made out that the books were written by apostles or other famous figures from the Gospels and Acts. In other words, they forged them. No major scholar of any persuasion that I know of accepts that any of them were written by those whom they name as authors.
gnosticism pre-dates Christianity.
Christ was a gnostic.
It was the early Church that changed things.
Early Christianity believed in equality of the sexes for example.
(There were actually more female Christian teachers than males for almost the first 300 years of Christianity.)
Early Gnostics were much more tolerant than Christians later became.
It was Gnosticism that produce the duality of Christian beliefs and the Holy Ghost concept, that was different from Judaism.
Modern Gnosticism is NOT like early Gnosticism, and I personally think modern Gnosticism has got it wrong.
Q was a Gnostic book.
Answered your first question already…….see note above
2nd…..we never mentioned anything about the sexes……
3rd……Define early….., and early church…….
4th…explain tolerant, and who was and was not tolerant christian
Early equals approx pre-Constantine, although there was not uniformity throughout the early church.
Tolerant means accepting of the right of others to have different beliefs.
” However, a glimpse of God could be attained through rational thinking and deep meditation.” was precisely a Gnostic belief.
The Beatitudes came out of a Sumerian religious system.
If Christianity not changed from the Gnostic Christian religion we would not have had the Spanish Inquisition and burning at the stake, etc.
Probably still would have had the Crusades.
But then it is also possible Christianity would have died out by now.
rational thinking ……..negates belief….., death , burial and resurrection…?
You said………>>”Early equals approx pre-Constantine”…..which is not anywhere close to the Spanish Inquisition
Refer to the book………John Fox BOOK OF MARTYRS
“Spanish Inquisition was 99% Myth. (BBC)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhlAqklH0do
I haven’t watched this yet, but it’s on my list.
Let me know if, you watch it…….I will have some comments, most likely…..There are to are books on the subject…prior to the BBC, which is part of the problem……
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Yes, I certainly don’t regard the BBC as an unimpeachable source.
I came across this book at the same time as the video:
https://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Inquisition-Historical-Revision/dp/0300078803
Early church…….date…..
produce the duality of Christian beliefs and the Holy Ghost concept,??????????
Which are………what beliefs?, ……..and who has the Holy Ghost?
Holy Ghost = Holy Spirit, one part of the trinity; Father, son and Holy Ghost.
What are their beliefs……..
Plato was dead 300 years before Christ and NOT a Gnostic.
See history above…..
Gnostic…..referring to a glimpse of God could be attained through rational thinking and deep meditation…..
Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle: The Big Three in Greek Philosophy.
Teaches and student…..interconnected
Pythagoras was wiser. Lucian of Samosata is my favorite.
If I remember correctly the primary center for Gnostics was Jordan and a sect Of Gnostics first introduced the concept of baptism with water, which influenced John the Baptist, who was probably also Gnostic.
It’s been over 20 years since I studied this stuff, and a lot of Christian “writings” as of the 1980s were just ignorant of discoveries in the twentieth century.
Would this be a meaning for the term Gnostic…….no trick question here, just want to get a starting point…….
First we must define what a genuine Gnostic is. The word comes from ancient Greek (Gnosis), and means Divine (i.e. Mystical / Spiritual) ‘experiential’ KNOWLEDGE of God (i.e. the “Supreme Power”, or the “ALL”). Thus a genuine Gnostic is one who has such “first-hand” Divine KNOWLEDGE of God (N.B. NOT mere ‘beliefs’, traditions, dogmas, and ‘theories’!).
I was using the term Gnostic to refer to one who was a follower of the Gnostic religion at the time of Christ.
Not the modern definition you gave.
Modern Gnostics follow a pan-religious belief system which somehow tries to encompass teachings of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism Hinduism and others.
The original Greek word gamma, nju, omega, sigma, eta means knowledge or knowing.
The Gnostic religion was one that was accepting of known facts, or knowledge.
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I guess we need to go back over and ask again……what do the Gnostics believe….
For God is wiser, and not everyone knows the wisdom of GOD……which would apply to the Gnostic….., From the beginning , Individuals and Satin was trying to become wiser than GOD.
Illumination, angle of Light, Satin appeared at the Tree of Knowledge
Genesis 3:6–7
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6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise,2 she took of its fruit xand ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, yand he ate. 7 zThen the eyes of both were opened, aand they knew that they were naked
ootb, cfs etc- I am trying to syudy this Alan Watts Gnostics ideas…WHOA!….no such thing as multitasking while he is speaking!…whoa…thankyou so much…..glad I am here…this site is a jewel and I can be on it during trading hours while waiting for set ups..lol
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btw…..great post on the health care…….and I agree on big pharma….rip off giants.
I always took that to imply that if known facts changed, the religion would change.
Hebrews 13:8 New King James Version (NKJV)
8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
But Christianity is not.
Who are christians…….
6I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1
If I remember, the earliest fragments of Gnostic gospels were found near the Dead Sea in the library of the Essenes, who were massacred by the Romans in the mid first century.
I find it interesting that you use the words of the gospels to prove the words of the Gospels; talk about tauologistic!
I have long accepted that if I am wrong I am accursed forever. That phases me not in the least; I just go with what can be independently verified. No verification: no proof.
(Obviously I am of little faith, as far as you are concerned.)
Relax, CFS. The Pope just said that Hell does not exist. We are safe.
Actually it was an atheist friend of the pope who claims the pope said that.
Eugenio Scalfarini or similar name.
I am prepared to believe Christ existed, was around 5′ 11″, weighed about 175 lbs, had type AB blood. Born about 4 B.C., died about 33 years later, was not born December 25, but some time in March or April. That is about the extent of my “knowledge”.
blood……AB negative….from what I remember……..
Obviously I am of little faith, as far as you are concerned.)
Sorry, not me, but……..as it is written…….
Tautology ……..you must have meant in lieu of tauologistic
I find it interesting that you use the words of the gospels to prove the words of the Gospels; talk about tauologistic!……….
Not sure we have Proven anything yet………..!
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
My Analysis of the propaganda TV show called ‘House’
Note: The surviving 6 mass media mega corporations benefit immensely by programming entertaining propaganda shows enforcing the alleged value of their largest advertising clients the pharma corps…..
The propaganda show House was used to promote the intrinsic value of the M..D….The MD MUST maintain credibility or faith and confidence would be shattered amoung the beleivers…This can never happen…The pills and proceedures of the giant ponsy scam must be sold by loveable although flawed but deeply commited practisors of the medical illusion…..The MD after all is the front man in the grand threatre….MD is the voice of control and reason in the Truman Show….The father, the mother ,the priest the ,intellect ,the good, the conscience of the whole show…The behind the scenes army of soldiers depend on them and will punish defectors(another huge topic related to medical boards).
Propaganda 402: graduate level/commercial grade
House has a two fold message
1)Each show necessarily addresses that continual crummy outcomes occur in the medical arena…..This tactic cleaverly gains viewership credibility points….The honesty of that obvious admission lowers the threshhold of believability for the remaining false messaging……Further the show continues on by Falsley attributing those crummy outcomes to crummy although deeply caring other MD operators so to speak….But then boom! in comes House…The quintessential operator…Fixes the mess and voila…….Order of the universe is once more re-established…..The viewership breaths a sigh of relief and believes anew…But House as a real world entitiy is simply pure TV propaganda and mythology….It is made up to be believable and is a lie a fabrication of all that is real…
You have just witnessed brilliant propagandists sleight of hand….Every doctor must employ the same standard of care , come to the same exact conclusions from the same case data and utilize the same code of billable proceedures…..The exact same pills, chemo, radiation, surgery……That was the whole point of medical training/conditioning..,,,A predictable stable reliable cohesive utilization of the Truman stage set…..A company,a a band of brothers and collegues in the same struggle …..That struggle is not about you,however..
2) the TV show program has enforced and motivated the viewer each week to seek out more and more doctor care in a fantasy hunt for their House to save them…..The truth those propaganda producers are so brilliantly side stepping has been illustrated partially…Finding the right MD doctor in the real world is just pure patient projection….The problem that will Never be mentioned, is that find ing th right doctor is not even the issue at all….IT is rather about finding the right method……Allopathic medicine is the wrong method to prevent or cure any chronic disease ; which is destroying America……The ‘ Method’ Allopathic IS the commonality in all this failure regardless of the operator selling it….Actually, allopathic is the engine behind the disease patterns today….It undoubtedly provides the certain energy to propel the hapless victims accelerated continuation patern into premature health decline and oblivion….
Summary: House Corporate Tv propaganda show through sophisticated compeling imagry sells the public on the certainty that the lousy results they see all around need not occur to them..That those lousey results are not due to inherent allopathic deficiency failures but rather that there current practisor of allopathic method is a failure …….They need only find there own personal trusted House to believe in………
The method allopathic has destroyed the health and vitality of every nation it has been exported to…vast sums of money have been transferred and the endiginous natives have been trashed……extreme example are American indians
Right on, lpr.
TV is a key part of the matrix.
Virtually sll TV programming serves propaganda purposes, both commercials and the programs. Air time is far too valuable for it to be otherwise in our current state of affairs.
Single payer you say? Well, her mother didn’t have a single prayer and she won’t either as she is in Commifornia and the Demonrats in that state are hell bent on single payer. The front runner for governor, Pretty Boy Newsome is all for it.