The missiles into Syria and US Education
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Good Morning Professor,
He could have been driven by seeing the pictures of the gassed children.
Agression in an attempt to illustrate to the entire world that we and others would not stand for the use of chemical weapons is, in my opinion, certainly not an imoral act.
Would I prefer that the U.S. simply stay out of the insane Middle East, yes I would. But then again when the players over there utilize horrific weapons to slaughter humanity, I would think that moral steps must be taken.
Also showing those who support these actions our willingness to do whatever it takes, even risking a dramatic war, does certainly show resolve against imorality.
Isis was tweeting about the attack 24 hours before it took place. As a veteran and a former intelligence officer I can say with 100% confidence, it was a false flag operation. The US didn’t give a damn about 500,000 kids under 5 killed by the sanctions against Iraq in 1996 and they don’t give a damn about a few kids now.
If you believe Assad was behind the attack you have to believe he would attack civilians when he could have attacked ISIS with the same weapons and that he would use chemical weapons that really don’t have much effect when he was winning. That’s not possible. Assad was not behind the attack and Syria is not America’s war.
How many more American kids have to die fighting wars for Israel?
Sure it’s not James Moriarty, from Conan-Doyle fame? If you were an intelligence officer, as you claim, you must not have been very good at it. Usually facts make a report – if you are what you say you are, you must understand chemical weapons handling procedures, movement, loading and release authorities are complex, well understood by the IC and verifiable. You make no case, present no facts, and your arguments are unbalanced. 100%? Never happens, Sherlock. Read something that makes sense:
http://bit.ly/2nO0AB3
McKinney:
When you have 832 missions in combat you can start giving me a lecture. 2013 was a false flag operation to blame Assad for the chemical attack that was done by the “rebels” and this last attack is so obviously a false flag operation that to accept it at face value is beyond absurd.
There are no facts verifying your opinion any more than there are verifiable facts supporting the concept that the Russians hacked the DNC. The US got into WW I based on a false flag operation, the US got into WW II based on a false flag operation, we got into Vietnam based on a false flag operation and now without any investigation we kill Syrians to prevent them from killing Syrians
Given that the US has started 82% of the wars since 1945, just how many more do you need to watch before you realize something is dead wrong?
So Assad attacked a civilian target rather than a military target when he was winning the war in spite of fighting Turkey, the US, the UK, France and Israel. Nobody except perhaps you is quite stupid enough to believe that.
There are reports all over the net.
The ones I like happens to be about handling procedures, course these prove its a false flag.
Common sense proves its a false flag too.
I thought your post further down was a joke.
Mr McKinney, what you say needs salt.
Now that I think of it, Mr McKinney, maybe I should ask?
Are you a neocon troll?
Just began reading, but Mr. Moriarty is spot on.
The U.S. government has become a most evil organized entity.
Burden of proof is on McKinney and he has failed. You can’t honestly fight a dictator like Assad while building a dictatorship at home. In this case, Trump has ignored the Constitution and the principles upon which it is based, like checks and balances. Committing an act of war without a declaration of war by the people as expressed through their Congress is evil and lawless. All of McKinney’s talk about chemical weapons and the complexities associated with their use may be true but is a distraction from the real issue: it isn’t right for one man by himself to commit 350 million of his fellow citizens to a war which could cost untold amounts of treasure and blood. Right must be done right or it is wrong.
McKinney is a creature of the Deep State…a swamp creature.
You’re right and besides this country can’t afford any more warmongering. In case no one’s notice the good ol’ USA is 20 trillion in debt with unfunded liabilities in the hundreds of trillions and adding to all this at a frightening pace. And this is does not include all the state, county and city gooberment debt and unfunded liabilities.
The finances alone make all this warmongering totally insane. Bottom line, we can’t afford any more career Deep State swamp creatures like McKinney. This country should get the hell out of Syria and the hundreds of other countries it is warmongering and meddling in. Any decent human with even half a brain should be able to understand this and act accordingly.
Eddie, just shut your yap and quit being such a wimp.
Warmongering is as American as apple pie. Didn’t Carlin teach you anything?
Morning Wayne,
This is getting interesting and I will have a talk with Jim. I have spent a lot of time with him in the past and he is a man of principal with solid credentials as is his wife who is no slouch in her own right.
I don’t believe that Trump committed the population of our country to a war with this action.
If the facts are correct ( notice I said if) regarding Assad’s use of chemical weapons, I spersonally believe that we did the right thing particularly given the fact that the evidence as to the origin of the Syrian attack seem to be conclusively correct.
Trump did commit the population of our country to a war. Who builds the missiles? Who pays for them? Who delivers them? Who pays for the delivery systems?
In the case of Trump’s action, it doesn’t matter if Assad used chemical weapons on his people. Here is the Madison:
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.
No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
Of all the enemies of public liberty, war is perhaps the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.
Excellent point and quote, Wayne.
Trump shows all signs of wanting to commit us to a war with Iran as well. The US has done far more evil to Iran than Iran has done to the US. Furthermore, the US started it with the CIA coup in 1953 that removed their chosen leader, a good man, and imposed the brutal Shah on them.
Thankfully, your points are easily refuted – as I am very concerned of dictatorship as well, and have sworn to defend our constitution, not a person.
The 1973 “Congressional” War Powers Act gives any President authority to act immediately, requires the Pres. to give Congress 48 hour notification AFTER the act, and authority to keep forces engage for up to 60 days without congressional approval – the President has notified congress, and if Congress chooses, they can withdrawal financial support in 60 days. The 2001/02 AUMF were Obama’s justification for military intervention and Air Strikes in Syria since 2014 – President Trump has not committed to a new war, though this action may, like any situation, make a new problem. Or it may make a statement, stopping a bigger escalation.
On balance, I believe stopping chem weapons use now (regardless of who had them,) and sending an immediate message chemical weapons are not acceptable was well worth the possible hand-wringing, debate and inaction we have seen for 8 years. The lawfully elected President of the United States, elected to represent 350 million Americans, took bold action in the best interest of our Nation to stop the use of chemical weapons in a combat theater where U.S. troops have been operating for years prior to his election.
This is not a new war, and it is not separate from civilization’s battle with fanatical Islamist extremists. Wishing that reality away or hiding will not stop a true religious dictatorship from taking you or your family’s life in the future in, if left unchecked.
There is a lot of screaming from the extreme left and right, but this action will stand in court if pressed – it won’t be, and if there was a hope on the left they would press it. The President’s actions, in my opinion, have reduced the chances of an ever-expanding crisis and halted the perception of U.S. decline in strength. The United States will only survive if Americans are willing to fight for what we have. If we wait for the inevitable fight to come to us, we have already lost.
If you didn’t notice, with our internal discourse, lack of faith in police and government, expanding political extremism, we are near the tipping point. Establishing a precedent takes guts, and strength – consistent with the President’s campaign promises. Fools who think this fight is someone else’s problem and will just go away without action are just that – fools.
Thanks for the facts and the sanity, Mr. McKinney.
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” James Madison, Father of the Constitution
Mr. McKinney,
When under attack the first priority is to correctly identify the enemy.
It is a non-controversial fact that the US has been integrally involved in fomenting radical Islam, e.g. by training Osama bin Laden and the mujahideen in Afghanistan.
Radical Islam is not the root of the problem. They could never ‘destroy our way of life’ with terrorist acts. We’ve done that for them through such measures as permitting surveillance that would make the KGB jealous. Under whose influence?
Those who refuse to question the official story of 9/11 are barking up the wrong tree.
For McKinney: “But if air strikes are justified on Syria because of chemical attacks on infants, doesn’t this mean that air strikes on us would be justified because of our chemical attacks on unborn children?” Doug Wilson, Pastor
I don’t believe that abortion, which I abhor, is a chemical attack. I do get your point however Wayne.
First, we must make every effort to determine the truth. McKinney has carelessly disregarded this most important principle. Finally, lobbing bombs must be the last resort. Without proof beyond a shadow of a doubt, McKinney has consented to the immediate implementation of the death penalty on a sovereign nation. In sum, McKinney is willfully blind.
That is not what he said Matthew, but I suppose it could be construed by some to be that. It is interesting how disussing something with in the first person can be misconstrued by folks listening to a recap.
Bob, there you go again stopping a propaganda troll in his tracks by telling the unvarnished truth.
The status quo wacks/trolls and political psycho’s that inundate all western governments would rather burn this whole damn thing to the ground before relinquishing power and letting well balanced thoughtful adults recapture the representative government system and redirect the insane Neocons global chaos blueprint for implementation of a saner and more peaceful stance.
The magnitude of the average Americans brainwashing is virtually unquantifiable.
Morning V,
I personally voted for Trump because I believe that the other side of the ticket was comprised of necons and globalists as I said many times, on the record.
My opinion is that the act in discussion here had nothing to do with globalism and everything to do with an attempt to shut down horrific actions aimed at innocent people.
If I am proven wrong, you know that I will be the first to admit it.
This is one of the few times I concur with you Bob. In this case your analysis makes sense. Only ISIS and its backers have anything to gain from such a real or imagined atrocity.
I agree Robert we have no idea who did it. There are to many factions that could have did it.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/jack-perry/cant-fight-war-without-scorecard
All of you are dead wrong about Jim McKinney. I will say that Jim lives in the U.S. and is not a bragart!
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater, okay?
Al:
Back in 2013 someone said something brilliant that our current president just totally ignored. The guy from 2013 got it exactly right when he said:
Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA – IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM – 5 Sep 2013
RM…give it a rest..take your anti Americanism somewhere else….
Gator, if Americanism is defined by the U.S. Constitution, then the U.S. government is clearly anti American and Bob is hyper American.
The US Government is the most evil organized entity in existence today.
If it leads into World War, it will become the most evil in history.
Gator:
Take a stab at just who made the following comments about Syria when Obama was president.
1. “Intervene and you’re not fighting Syria any more, you’re fighting Syria, Russia and Iran,”
2.“We should focus on ISIS, not Syria. You’re going to end up in World War Three over Syria if we listen to Hillary Clinton.”
Was Trump wrong when he made those statements? Was he anti-American?
Micheal Savage , radio show host, turns on TRUMP………false flag….sarin gas was not used….zerohedge Seems Trump is a Neocon pleasing the HIlly and McCain war mongers. The Trojan Horse just left the stable…..
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater, okay?
Or the swamp creatures out with the swamp. 😉
If what Seymour Hersh claims is true, then it is not at all clear Assad used chemical weapons, as opposed to the Russian claim that Assad’s bombing accidentally hit a rebels weapons cache that included chemical weapons.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/04/28/seymour-hersh-hillary-approved-sending-libya-sarin-syrian-rebels.html
Thanks much for this article, Professor. I readi and then printed it out so that I would have more of a permanent record.
You are an incredibly valuable member of our family and when you and I and Kathy are in the Sonoma area at the same time we must get together.
If it comes from jew its not true! Read John 8:31 – 44 God knows the nature of those people and their fellow travellers. Hint: It isn’t good.
i totally enjoyed listening to James McKinney……thankyou
Jim and Laura McKinney ane their kids are some of the most unique individuals whom I have ever met.
Lance,
Jim lives in and supports the United Sates; he is not anti Israel and does not brag about his exploits. To me that says it all.
Re: Stockholm terror attack.
A police bomb squad was spotted at the site of the attack, according to an Aftonbladet reporter. The area within a 200 meter radius was reportedly cordoned off. It remains unclear whether the uncovered “bag of explosives” is a blast-ready improvised explosive device.
The device did not go off, but the suspect received burns from it, SVT reports.
The head of the Swedish Security Police told Swedish TV4 that he could not immediately confirm the media reports.
A suspect was detained late Friday in a Stockholm suburb and subsequently arrested, according to Swedish police. The suspect is believed to be the driver of the truck, Reuters reports, citing police spokesman Lars Bystrom.
Several other people were questioned after the deadly incident, as police believe that there might be other people associated with the suspect.
Police raided several locations in Stockholm during the night after the incident.
“The mission has been going on in several different locations with different measures that cannot be described in detail at present,” The Local Sweden quoted police spokesperson Towe Hägg as saying.
Police are working closely with the Swedish Security Service (Säpo) to find any accomplices of the suspect and potential links with terrorist organizations.
CFS Comment:
What did innocent civilians in Stockholm do to antagonize members of the so called “religion of peace”?
Where is the Islamic condemnation of this attack?
The silence is deafening.
I have pretty much come to the conlusion, CFS, that the “deafening silence” gives a lot of insight into their collective character.
CFS:
You don’t criticize Israel when they kill innocent civilians. Your silence is deafening.
And you really do need to take off the HATE GLASSES.
What kind of weird religion do you follow that taught you to hate people who believe in a different god?
Just about done with you Robert. By the way how are you enjoying living in Switzerland after your stint in the Caymans?
Is there some standard of thought that people are supposed to maintain to stay on the board?
I saw what the US was turning into ten years ago and got out while it was still possible. I’m astonished that you fail to see what is going on. As far as the good LTC is concerned, he may be the nicest guy in Washington but the brainwashing that all in the military undergo has yet to wear off.
It was a false flag operation. The US made an illegal attack on a sovereign nation with a democratically elected president and it was on behalf of Israel. I’m not nearly as anti-Israel as I am anti war crimes. We have helped create 65 million refugees with our middle east policy and any rational person would conclude that our actions have created a disaster.
There is nothing at all logically that suggests Assad would rationally gas his own people. I am as offended by the attack as you are but I happen to remember that the same people that told us they had proof that Iraq had WMD are the ones who said Assad gassed his people in 2013 and it turned out to be a lie and now they are back.
Have you lost your ability to reason?
RM..you are the one that has lost the ability to reason…
Gator — You deny the WMD lies used as excuse for Bush’s Iraq War?
No I have not lost that ability.
If I am proven wrong regarding Assad using those weapons, I will be the first to admit it as I mentioned above to Vortex.
I simply find it very difficult to believe that Trump would fall for the same bs that Bush did. Bush did admit his mistake by the way. I have to say that this admission certainly did not make that action right.
You know how I feel about the U.S. going into Iraq and you know that my response was a vote for Kerry in 2004.
Al:
That’s very funny about Kerry.
You just don’t in the 21st-Century behave in 19th-Century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped-up pretext. John Kerry March 02, 2014
John Kerry, GW Bush’s Skull and Bones brother.
Scull and Crossbones…..coupled with the Pilgrim Society….and the entire USA has been a joke for 150 years…..Dumb sheeple …all citizen should do some homework.
thanks Big Al……for all the hard work putting the shows together all these many years…..j
I am actually now spending way more time on this than I do on golf, which used to be a big passion for me.
And you know what ootb, I am having a hell of a lot more fun!
By virtue of John 8:44 I don’t believe any reports that come from Jews or their fellow travellers especially if it has something to do with the use of poison gas on anybody.
In my view Trump committed a war crime on behalf of world jewry and there will be consequences sooner or later.
My flock has become a prey…because there was no shepherd,nor did my shepherds search for my flock,but my shepherds fed themselves…Ezekiel 34:8
The reason Jews went quietly is not a mystery. Jewish leadership betrayed them.
A more important factor is that both Jewish leadership and Jewish council were dominated by Zionists.
The Zionists own the banks, everyone is a victim.
b, please tell me why you and Steven blame Israel for these actions on the part of the U.S.
Who has been responsible for all of the wars since 9/11 Al? NeoCon Zionists.
Who has benefited? Zionist Israel.
I don’t know how it could be any clearer.
So of course they are the prime suspect.
I cannot disagree with you comment about Neocons and Zionists, GH.
That is actually the reason that I voted for Trump.
Here is the bottom line question: “who would benefit the least if the Syrian rebels came into power.?” I maintain that given their philosophy the most harm would eventually come to Israel.
In the big picture, I agree with you Al that this not in Israeli’s/Jew’s interest. But it’s a tangled web. Clearly the Zionists have an agenda of fomenting chaos throughout the Middle East and beyond. My theory, out of this chaos their intention is to form a New Order, one in which they rule absolutely (control over fiat money in a cashless society, etc.).
As b points out, there are the gangsters, and then there are the normal people–ostensibly their people–that they use as human shields. When the Zionists stabbed Germany in the back in 1916 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY90MSkQtrE), how was this good for the larger group? It wasn’t. All I can conclude is that fanatics are in the driver’s seat with a very long-term agenda.
As a point of fact, those who benefit least will be Syrians, particularly Christian Syrians.
Look how our congress groveled to Netanyahu, Al. No congressman lasts long without the approval of AIPAC. The Zionists actually brag that they control America. So it’s a no-brainer that anything we do in the Middle East is in their service.
And it’s a testament to our stupidity as a nation, given the above facts, that we could allow ourselves to be bamboozled (by Zionist-owned media) into a debate about undue Russian influence on our politics.
Congress did certainly let him in the door. You must remember that Obama did not.
What do you think about them apples?
Obama seems to have put up *some* resistance at the end of his administration. Overall, he consistently caved. But that is the current reality of politics in the US.
Congress did much more than let ‘Yahu in the door–they gave him non-stop standing ovations!
World Jewry and Israel are the leaders of the world of freemasonry, banking, media and government. Their elite families like Rothschild, Rockefeller, Schiff, Soros and others are the masterminds. The national governments outside of Israel except for those on the neocon target list are their puppets or should I say slaves. Revelations 18 is all about this Jewish blight on humanity and what is going to happen to it. These are the people who slew the prophets , the son of god and the saints and are responsible for those slain upon the earth. It is as plain as a pike staff. Right now they are trying to get us to fight nuclear power against nuclear power until most of mankind especially our kind of humanity is killed off so that the Jews and their god Satan can lord over the survivors if any as their masters. When these devils confess their intentions you should not dismiss it as bragging or a conspiracy theory. They are drop dead serious and they mean business.
Have you also ever consideered the fact that many Jews are secular and simply do not believe in God. Kind of goes against the Old Testament teachings and what does that lead to?
You dont understand what I said Al.
interesting. I wonder how many other people miss my point?
“EVERYONE IS A VICTIM” INCLUDING the Jews.
I show you bibleical reference.
WHY did the Jews go quietly???? The were decieved, by whom??? their own leadership!!
ZIONISTS!
Israel is a tool of the Zionists.
This is a HUGE point, Iranian presedent never said “destroy Israel” he did say “destroy Zionists”
There is a huge difference.
If people would look at history, think useing their own minds, instead of simply believing what they are told to believe…well, it would help.
Follow the money Al.
Starting the story with “jesus” is pointless for a couple reasons, first, nobody listened to him.
2nd. too much has happened between now and then to be relivant, other than the jews being “booted from everywhere they ever went”.
At one time I thought the reason was peophilia, but it is usery.
(read the talmud, pedophilia is perfectly acceptable)
I posted a rabbi stating the only point of americans is to serve the jews, and thats exactly what they have always done. perfect as servants actually, religiously and otherwise, willing to enslave commit genocides etc. Perfect servants.
Anyway, Jackson just slowed them down, look whats happened around the world since 1913.
Jump to 2000.
In the year of 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled Central Bank:
Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family were:
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
The only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family are:
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
The background story of this is at the event chronicle if your interested.
It is the Zionists, their goal is the whole world and all of us including the jews are victims.
Makes me wonder if the sumerian records are correct that dna was injected and they are “chosen people”
Anyway, in some places this is illegal to say, but the nazis understood the difference between zionists and jews, is was the zionists he wanted to be rid of.
This is why there were so many jews serving with the nazis.
Very unpopular to say, o well, its true.
1933 saw the establishment of the transfer agreement, but who was leading the jews? the zionists and they needed 6 million to vanish to create Israel.
I posted the research the other day.
Anyway, thats just proof the answer is “ITS THE BANKS” and until people figure it out, everything we hear is a lie, the hope we have now is the tin foil hats on the internet.
Just imagine where these Zionists are intending to take us, consider AI and dna.
Humanity itself is on the line.
They are winning, there will be one world order,one race,one religion .
People are choosing to become “the borg”.
All the pieces to this “tin foil, conspiracy, only whackos look at it” story is there if you look, but as Ive said many times, “even when their god tells them about money changers they dont listen”.
Why will they listen now?
The Zionists are going to win.
b…As i have said in the past, Hitler killed the wrong Jews, he should have been killing the Zionists Jews, but that something he could not do as those “EVIL” bastards were funding him. The Zionists delivered their own 2 class citizens to the slaughter.
Tony, I am not trying to justify anything.
Altho there are reasons for what happened, some of what we are told is true, some is not.
But thats not my purpose for posting.
Im trying to make it absolutley obvious, its the Zionist, NOT the Jews.
Think about it, Rothchild told everyone he doesnt care which form of government,
he wants the banks,
the Zionists funded Wellington AND Napoleon, they funded the Allies AND the Axis.
One of Hitlers drivers was a Jew for petes sake, Jews served with the nazis, but we are not told that.
You dont have to be Jew to be Zionist.
This distinction is important.
The banks,Israel are both tools used by the Zionists.
If you researched what the nazis did, you would find they really took a bite outa Zionism. Thats how they went from the poorest indebted nation on earth to the most powerful in about 5 yrs.
This they got rich by stealing from jews is bs, they had no where near the wealth required even if they did do that.
Of course they eventually did that as they did to france and everywhere else they went, but thats a war story.
The answer for the U.S. and everyone else is quite simple, we already know it, END THE FED, stop the Zionists.
The second world war is just perfect proof that is true.
Any wonder they dont teach us truth about it?
Know what?, I think this one world government idea has been around for a long time,
others before him fought it, and Jesus warned us.
I think Jesus knew exactly what he was warning us about.
Thanks b,
I really didn’t miss your point, I simply agreed with it. Before I disagree with a person who I truly respect, I do a fair amount of research.
Lots of good points, b. Thanks for making them.
Actuall b, I do understand. I believe that many Zionists are not good people. I also believe that there will come a time when those folks will pay dearly for their actions.
b…..ditto on Jesus……
b…..should read…..Jesus knew what he was talking about……
It doesn’t matter. They network and have some of the strongest racial solidarity in the world. They will when push comes to shove side with their ethnic group and its nationality Israel- Judea. When it comes to religion Jews follow the Talmud and only pay lip service to the Torah. If they really followed the Torah they would have had to recognize Jesus as the messiah and son of God, repent and become Christians. Instead they for the most part rejected Christ and became full blown occultists, criminals, perverts and revolutionaries. This is what Judaism is all about. It is about what is good for the Jews only. When you understand this the theory that Jews are victims doesn’t hold water. What they really are is master victimizers and like Jesus said they are of their father the devil. ISIS= Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. Its motto: By way of deception we do war. Right now they are doing it in Syria with the help of their allies.
Your post makes me say hmmm, Steven.
I seem to recall differant groups of Jews, same as dif Christians or Muslims.
I also recall reading that all Jews got blamed for Jesus betrayal when it was one particular group.
I dont know if all Jews are Talmidic(?) but it is disgusting if you ask me, (pedophilia is fine) which really makes me wonder why Christians support them so much.
Its been awhile since I looked into those things, but I think its Zionists that should be the concern today, exposed really, and their tools, masons,banks,Israel.
As well as their history which exposes their ownership of the U.S. for example.
That in turn exposes the purpose of U.S. aggression around the world.
Your comment about all Jews being blamed for the crucifiction reminds me of the situation in the world today.
Hi Steven, on this I have to desagree. As you know I am an active student of the Bible and I think that the action of the U.S. was needed to be very clear to the world where we stand as a nation.
Remember that in the case of our actions civilians were not killed.
Al:
It was a failed strike and civilians were killed. It was also totally illegal. According to the Vice Chair of the 911 commission, we have yet to conduct a real investigation of 911 and we don’t know who was responsible but somehow we know who used chemical weapons in Syria a week ago.
Finally we do know it was ISIS back in 2013 and it was initially, too, blamed on Assad.
I don’t have a dog in the fight but Assad was elected by a majority of his people. The US Turkey, Israel, the UK and France are sponsors of the terrorists. How many more refugees do we need to create?
I thought we needed enough refugees to expand from the Tigress to the Euphrates?
Something like that.
My research shows that there was, in fact, a small amount of collaterial damage Bob. It was a minimal amunt. As a former military man, tell me, is it possible to avoid that?
Yes. The best way to win any battle is to not fight it. In any conflict both sides lose. Firing missiles into a sovereign nation headed by someone who took 70% of the vote in a fairly conducted election should be the very last thing you do, not the first.
Actually the collateral damage was the chemicals that went off when Assad’s Air Force bombed a perfectly legal and valid military target, the munitions dump of the terrorists. It wasn’t Assad responsible to the WMD, it was ISIS and the rest of the terrorists. I’m shocked by the leap to judgement by so many in the face of no evidence at all given by the same bastards who lied us into Iraq and Libya.
What part of the bible was it that says, “Blessed be the War Mongers?” I think I missed that part.
AMEN MY BROTHER. BOMBING SYRIA WAS NOTHING LESS THAN A TERROIST ATTACK. NOW TRUMP HAS JOINED THE NEOCON CLUB WITH SUCH DEVILS LIKE OBAMA,HILLARY,GEORGE JUNIOR AND SONG BIRD JOHN MCCAIN.
UGLY……Hello i watched mccain on tv this morning….The smug look on that bastards face was sick….if i had have been standing in front of him, that grin would have dissapeared forever.
McCain, the Hanoi Songbird who appears to have betrayed his fellow POWs, and whose father covered up the USS Liberty. A pitiful, wretched man.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/
At this point, I do not believe that Trump is a neocon. Time will tell and I may be corrected.
Let’s let the dust settle, okay?
ditto….on the Neocon club…..Ugly…..
I was waiting for the 100days to be up……but, I think the Trojan Horse has left the stable..
Steven:
Probably sooner.
To attack Syria while guesting the President of China is like inviting the governor of your state to a formal dinner and going outside after dinner and shooting your neighbor’s dog because you don’t like its color.
That, my friend, is a silly comparison.
RM is full of silly comparisons….
Morning Steven,
The question is: “did he commit to this action on behalf of world jewry or was it because the facts required a response from a Christian nation.
Yes because where it counts most of the white nations of the earth are under Jewish and Masonic control and that includes the USA. These are no longer Christian Nations. The jury is still out on Russia and some eastern European nations. Evidently your last federal election was not the solution to the problem…. Throwing huge mounts of money at a campaign and being popular is not enough. The old regime should have been rounded up and disposed of starting 01/21/2017 first thing in the morning. For failing to do this the USA will not be great again anytime soon. I expect your fellow Americans will discover this the hard way. You can not have greatness with the devil and his children running the show. As always they got to go!
The only reason for the long-range strike against the chemical company in Syria was to pacify the Military-Industrial Complex and the warmongers in Washington, D.C. There is no reason to “finish what Obama started” or “send a message” to any of the people or groups in Syria.
Strategically, we should not have any troops in Syria. ISIS/ISIL being created by Deep State puppeteers in the USA, we should not continue to support them clandestinely by opposing the Syrian government and/or Russians fighting them. The US should protect its’ own, and stop projecting power overseas.
A lot of truth in your comment Mr. Pace. I do still maintain that the use of chemical weapons in a singular surgical action does certainly send a valuable message. Getting involved in a major “boots on the ground” prolonged shooting war is something that I would never support.
I think Trump was also sending a message to North Korea, with The Chinese Premier at Mar-a-lago, the message wasn’t lost. Not only should The Americans stop policing this world but the other major powers need to come together using diplomacy to diffuse these hot spots. I’m afraid that day has about as much chance of happening as snowballs in hell.
Yes, China and North Korea were definitely part of the calculus. We will see in the next few weeks if North Korea got the message. If Kim Jong-Un lays low and doesn’t test any missiles or have any public appearances for a while, then message received. Still, we don’t have too many viable policy options to effect change on the Korean peninsula either, without risking mass casualties.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/north-korea-condemns-americas-unforgivable-acts-aggression
Yet another valid point from you Steele!
Steele:
And if Jong-Un reads the writing on the wall and starts thinking about Seoul being 30 miles south of the DMZ and wouldn’t be hard to bombard into oblivion, Trump just started WW III and you don’t even want to ask me who is going to lose big time.
Recall what we did to N.Korea last time, barely a village left standing.
Maybe they have forgotten, Im sure they have forgivin.
They are bound to trust us by now.
B:
Actually what started the attitude on the part of NK was when Bush made an agreement with them and then reneged. Even NK is not a 100% bad country. The US played their part but don’t look for any reports of how we screwed them in the Fake Stream Media.
Funny, we always keep our agreements dont we?
Time will certainly tell, Bob.
Grreat and valid point Mr. Tracy!
The Lt Col. gave one plausible answer to the question why Assad/Russia would launch a chemical weapons attack — to test Trump — when otherwise they wouldn’t do such a stupid thing and we saw this before and it was the rebels who did it. I don’t know Al. It’s smells to me.
A lot of the world is starting to smell to me cmc!
IMF Issue Working Paper on Eliminating Cash
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) in Washington has published a Working Paper on “de-cashing” the economies and the implications. This paper clearly demonstrates that this is the direction we are headed into. It provides advice to governments who want to join in the latest thing – abolishing cash. IMF-Analyst Alexei Kireyev recommends in his conclusions:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/imf-issue-working-paper-on-eliminating-cash/
Eliminating cash has already pretty much happened. Just in case Mr. Armstrong has not realized it.
Syria – Pipeline – How The Press Will Not Tell the Truth about Syria
With all the attacks upon Trump as having some covert connection with Putin to defeat Hillary when nothing hacked from the DNC was ever said to have been faked or altered, just released, one must wonder has this suddenly influenced Trump to attack Syria to prove he is not in league with Putin? If the military advisors are telling him it is Syria who has launched a chemical attack, he really should tread very lightly. This 180 degree turn for Trump may indeed be a trap.
I am hearing it was Ivanka putting pressure on her father to attack Syria because she was upset by the photos of dead infants.
This raises the question, possibly, of whether the President may be getting altzheimers or demementia in failing judgment if he is so influenced by his daughter, a 35 year old, young mother.
I think that is a bit of a stretch, Professor.
I agree, Big Al. But then, you probably realize by now I am always asking what if, why,….
The problem is that Assad had little to gain from the use of chemical weapons, since he was already winning against the rebels.
The UN people stated that it could be either Chlorine gas or Sarin, but tests would take a while to identify the agent.
From my observation of the photos and descriptions as choking, I would place the probability of agent as chlorine or Phosgene, not the nerve agent Sarin.
The Russians and UN said all Sarin had been removed in 2013.
Syria had been under import watches and embargo since then, with no imports of sodium floride or potassium fluoride (requisites for Sarin manufacture) reported.
The rebels had used chemicals before.
The Russians claimed a normal bombing attack by Assad, hitting a hidden rebel munitions store, caused the problem.
All these facts do raise doubt in my mind as to the claim that Assad either had or used Sarin last week.
And that, Professor, is why I have so much respect for you.
Micheal Savage radio host…..said it was not Sarin….he has a background in chemicals…see zerohedge
Markedtofuture,
It could be a “trap” I suppose, but I think that the U.S. really did the right thing in an attempt to stop the use of chemical weapons.
Ya know, if we weren’t bamboozled by the establishment and its press so many times in the past we wouldn’t be so skeptical today. That is the sad result of all their deceptions.
Agreed cmc!
Professoer,
Does it really matter which particular agen was used?
Interesting theory by McKinney, that this was a test of Trump’s/US resolve.
But given the endless string of lies we have been told by the MIC and the Neocons, they have zero credibililty.
No WMD in Iraq. Destruction of Libya for no good reason. Lies about Ukraine and the downing of MH-17. Winking at our allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar as they funded both ISIS and the Clinton Foundations. Letting ISIS convoys of tanker trucks take oil to Turkey. Etc. ad nauseum.
Without solid evidence, one must assume they are lying again.
Of course theyre lieing.
Assad hit a weapons depot, the Americans support isis, al nuzra, al-qaeda and all the rest of them.
I like what Ron Paul said, “They were scared to death peace was going to break out.”
A scary thing, other than the loss of aircraft, the syrian forces are getting tired.
b,
How do you account for the women and children civilian males who were killed?
Al, have you not followed this story?
I will go over my understanding, b.
I am not sure just how the press would play a role in this. I think that it was a direct result of the illustration of U.S. resolve.
I believe that the press plays virtually no role in the actions of the Trump regiem. In this case the attack occured with almost no knowledge by the press until after the fact. All it can do now is editorialize and believe you me we will see some interesting editorials. Let’s see what Krugman has to say.
GH:
Only someone still owned and operated by the CMIC could come up with something as absurd as Assad needing to test Trump. Go listen to anything Assad has ever said about anything and then listen to anything Trump has ever said.
Assad is a logical thinking rational person who expresses himself in an understandable way. You don’t have to agree with him but he is not some loose cannon running his mouth. I’m impressed with the few times I have heard him speak. He’s a doctor, has a nice wife and children.
Trump on the other hand is a loud mouth idiot who just wrote his epitaph and should the cards fall the wrong way, he just convinced Russia, China, Iran and N Korea that he is a rabid dog working for his masters in Israel.
This is the guy who claimed he was going to put HRC in jail and make nice with the Russians. Try thinking about a single thing the Russians have done in the last three months to justify the demonization they are undergoing.
There is an excellent chance WW III just started and the US is going to lose.For crying out loud, 70% of Navy jets are down for parts and 100 flight instructors just went on strike because their oxygen systems don’t work and the Admiral in charge simply doesn’t care.
Let’s hope it is not your epitaph as well.
LOL Bob,
and here I was thinking of responding to “maybe its a test”.
All kinda puts PM investing in perspective a bit.
B:
Many years ago I said it’s possible we see $50,000 gold.
But it’s not a world you would want to live in. Be careful of what you wish for.
Never have I wished for 50k gold.
I understand completely.
What I ment by perspective, is considering whats actually important in life.
I totally agree, Robert.
I should have said, “Interesting but absurd theory by McKinney.” By that kind of reasoning I guess it’s unlikely we’ve made any military mistakes these past twenty years, or seven decades, or longer.
I’ve done my share of debating with a military family member, so I’m familiar with the brainwashed, unquestioning mindset. I try not to get too insulting in these posts. But dammit, the stakes are so high, and the reality so obvious, it is incredibly frustrating to listen to apologists for more of the same ol’ same ol’.
Trump launches Syria flip-flops
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/syria-strike-flip-flop-who-changed-stance-236978
Correct me if I’m wrong, AJ, but have you not been attacking Trump on every issue the mass media has offered up?
We may never be sure if Trump was a deep state trojan horse from the outset or if he has been bent to their will.
But something that is perfectly clear is that the so-called ‘Left’, with which I identified when I was young and ignorant, has allied itself with the NeoCon and CIA war mongers and the NWO globalists. If Trump wasn’t a trojan horse from the start, the Left has played their part in bringing the current state of affairs about. No doubt we would already have seen escalation if they had gotten their preferred candidate, HRC.
Not sure that we would already seen major escalation. Of course, we still might. At this point all that we have is a moral response to an incredibly immoral action.
Al, did you just say that launching 59 Cruise Missiles into a sovereign nation, resulting in the deaths of innocent civilians was a moral act on our nations part.
Are you serious?
GH, I’ve been convinced all along that Trump is just another swamp-dweller and I’ve had no reason to doubt that.
True enough. If it walks and quacks like a Donald Duck, why question it.
There have been some interesting things…the animosity of the press and at least some in the security agencies–and whether intended or not, his presence has done a lot to rip the mask off these parties in a way that a lot of sheeple can’t help but notice. His going off-script in forcefully telling the American people that they’re getting screwed. Overtures, or at least lip service, to improve relations with Russia.
But his appointments and the history of people he has associated with, particularly his chumminess with the Zionists, speak volumes.
All that aside, I’m absolutely disgusted by the behavior of the so-called ‘left’, who have shown themselves to have no more scruples than they have a clue. They give a rat’s ass about respecting legitimate election results, just like they give a rat’s ass about the lives of all the middle easterners that they are so desperate to have immigrate here. Once upon a time there was a ‘left’ that was anti-war, even if they were socialist tools. Dupes.
I appreciate your last paragraph, GH
Yes, Trump certainlly did. But in this case, was the action a bad one to take?
Big Al, Cory, and others.
I have said it before, but it is worth repeating.
The reason I post things in the youtube format when possible is because the SPEED is adjustable. Time is s precious commodity and I usually choose listening at speed 1.5, rather than normal. I believe it is still possible to absorb information at 50% faster than normal conversation speed.
Symposium with Ron Paul: War and Peace in the Age of Trump, Ron Paul:
Thanks Professor, I will watch this in a couple of hours.
Russian perspective on “Trump’s War”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSQtq02whNo
And, I will certainly watch this one also.
MY FRIENDS, I AM GOING DOWN TO THE MT. BAKER DIALYSIS CENTER AND WILL BE THERE FROM 1:40 UNTIL ABOUT 5 P.M. DURING THAT THREE HOUR OR SO PERIOD OF TIME I WILL BE RIGHT HERE ADDRESSING AND MAKING COMMENTS.
WHAT AN INTERESTING TIME WE ALL LIVE IN!
http://bit.ly/2nO0AB3
For the conspiracy theorists out there…Read this for a rational argument.
Only ignorant and/or dishonest people use “conspiracy theorist” as a pejorative. History is packed with conspiracies of all scales so it would be foolish to pretend otherwise when thinking about current events.
“Only ignorant and/or dishonest people use “conspiracy theorist” as a pejorative.”
EXACTLY !!!
HI Matthew,
Symantics is a fascinating subject.
Ok.
Matthew 100% spot-on! Well said.
From the screed:
The U.S. conducts airstrikes routinely, and will be there for a long time.
I guess we heathens (as the article calls its readers) better get ready for a long war, Mathew. But maybe not. How much longer will the Chinese loan money to this country? How does McKinney propose a country with a federal debt of $20 trillion and unfunded liabilities in the hundreds of trillions pay for all this? (Trump spent over 100 million in that single, useless attack. Imagine how costly our government’s deepening involvement will be. ) After reading that screed which provided no facts to indicate Assad was behind the attack it is clear where McKinney is coming from. It is a deep and dark swamp, indeed.
Military mind set………does it ever change…
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” — William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987
Casey is correct, Matthew!
Al:
Matthew was talking about you. Change the words “American Public” to “Al Korelin” and you will understand what he was trying to tell you.
Matthew, I hate it when you make things so simple. You express in 20 words what takes me 100.
As I said Bob, symantics is a fascinating subject. By the way, best to Barbara.
Semantics is an interesting subject, too. 😉
CIA Admits to Congress the Agency Uses Mainstream Media to Distribute Disinformation: 1975 Video
Jimmy Carter almost defanged the CIA. That’s part of the reason for the “October Surprise”:
http://boardmanland.blogspot.com/2015/07/isis-breakout.html
I don’t buy “almost.” Carter was surrounded by his deep state handlers.
He would have received the Kennedy treatment.
“I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.” JFK — his exact words, according to a Kennedy administration official who spoke with The New York Times for a report published three years after JFK’s death.
All high American politicos are surrounded by AIPAC operatives, and have been for many decades. Carter was “JFKd” by them and/or their WASP elite competition through the “October Surprise”, which almost led to an earlier presidency for CIA “cowboy” George H.W. Bush after the attempted Reagan assassination.
Did you peruse the link? My initial comment stands as accurate!
Yes, I did peruse your link and I was already well aware of the October Surprise. What I reject is the claim that Carter “almost defanged the CIA” — not a chance.
Jimmy Carter Offered Fawning Praise of Argentine Dirty War
Newly-declassified docs show that Jimmy Carter’s support for Argentine junta’s “counter-terrorism” belies his popular image as a humanitarian.
Although former U.S. President Jimmy Carter is widely applauded for his human rights agenda in foreign policy, newly-declassified documents related to the U.S. role in Argentina’s Dirty War indicates that the Democrat was fully aware of the junta’s brutal crackdown on Leftist dissidents but turned a blind eye–even offering fawning praise at times–and qualified the regime’s torture and murder as necessary to combat “terrorism.”
Read more…
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Jimmy-Carter-Offered-Fawning-Praise-of-Argentine-Dirty-War-20160814-0007.html
Jimmy Carter’s Blood-Drenched Legacy
“…the self-professed advocate for human rights demonstrated quite the penchant for bloodshed. While he didn’t initiate any aggressive invasions of foreign nations the way his predecessors and successors did in Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan and many other countries, Carter proved remarkably generous at providing financial, military, diplomatic and ideological support for fascist dictatorships that tortured and killed millions of members of their domestic populations in an effort to crush popular movements for social justice. Some of the regimes he backed carried out mass slaughter that amounted to genocide.”
Read more…
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/18/jimmy-carters-blood-drenched-legacy/
Thank you, Matthew! So Jimmy Carter was really anti-Left and pro-Right. Interesting.
“Jimmy Carter was a pawn on David Rockefeller’s chessboard. Carter was plucked out of nowhere to run for President by Rockefeller’s Trilateral Commission (TC).”
Politicians tend to weaponize words by twisting their definitions 180 degrees. For example, the classical liberal was for strictly limited government, private property, free markets (rule of law; a level playing field), individual liberty and against war. Today’s liberal is no liberal at all by the original definition. They are wealth-redistributing big government collectivist tyrants and the “right” has joined them.
It is the left that got the U.S. involved in WW1 and WW2 and dropped atomic bombs on civilians.
Jeff Deist had some interesting thoughts on the subject last year:
“Perhaps the most striking feature of the [Carter] Administration is the role played in it by the Trilateral Commission…All of the top positions in the government — the office of President, Vice-President, Secretary of State, Defense and Treasury — are held by members of the Trilateral Commission, and the National Security Advisor was its director. Many lesser officials also came from this group. It is rare for such an easily identified private group to play such a prominent role in an American Administration.
The Trilateral Commission was founded at the initiative of David Rockefeller in 1973.”
https://chomsky.info/priorities01/
(Chomsky’s positions on JFK and 9/11 have greatly tarnished him in my eyes, but still, he has provided plenty of good info and analysis over the years.)
Disinformation agents of Chomsky’s caliber have to expose a lot truths in order to remain credible to their followers.
That’s exactly my conclusion as well, Matthew.
Time for him to retire.
There are factions within both Jew and WASP elites, and their fellow travelers. Carter was indeed attempting to remove one of them from their control of the CIA, but was outgunned.
BDC,
Makes one wonder why no autopsy on Judge Scalia, doesn’t it.
Thanks Jim,
Just printed it out and will read it in a couple of minutes.
McKinney:
Obviously you never spent any time in combat. In 1969 the bright sparks at Wing determined that we needed to test tear gas on the NVA we knew were lurking west of the Combat Base at Dong Ha. Naturally being the military, things were delayed and delayed and delayed. Finally the fixed wing loaded with gas showed up and the FAC controlling the strike put them right on target just west of the combat base.
Alas, all of the planning called for the gas to be dropped early in the day when the wind was blowing from the east. The delays were in unison with the daily 180 degree change in wind direction and by the time the gas was deployed, they gassed the entire 3rd Marine Division.
Everybody in the military knows that using gas is always a problem of one sort or another and doesn’t work very well. Civilians worry about gas attacks, the military doesn’t. In war you get killed by artillery, not chemicals.
Only an idiot would conclude Assad was behind the attack. Please don’t tell me you are getting your information from the FSM.
The US involvement in Iraq killed over a million civilians, don’t whine to me about 80 dead Syrians killed on behalf of Israel. We have destroyed the country and they did nothing to us. Take some responsibility for your own actions. It’s not our war. And frankly no one cares how big Trump’s dick is. Or your for that matter.
Why were they killed on behalf of Israel. I fail to see that logic.
Al:
Well, you could read what they put in writing 19 years ago and ask yourself, isn’t that exactly what has happened? If the answer is yes, then you know who is behind it.
Rather than pursuing a “comprehensive peace” with the entire Arab world, Israel should work jointly with Jordan and Turkey to “contain, destabilize, and roll-back” those entities that are threats to all three.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm
That is exactly what has happened and simple logic would tell you that Syria hasn’t done anything to us. You may believe that the US has some right to attack any country in the world any time it wants but the people of Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Yemen would probably argue that you are wrong.
I can’t think for even a moment what our strategic interests in Yemen would be.
I did read that material.
Here is an interesting issue that I thought about during Mass a few hours ago. Zionists run Israel and Isis and other bad people have a certain amount of control over other areas.
Wouldn’t it make a hell of a lot more sense to simply tid the Middle East of the Bad Guys.
I don’t belioeve for a minute that you believe that all Israli Jews are bad people as I don’t believe, for a moment that all Muslims arre ba people.
Seems that we are looking at this situation and handling this situation ass backwards.
I obviously meant “rid” and not “tid”
This situation has is so insane that smart folks, like those on this forum, and often times letting their emotions get in the way of rationale thinking. And, I will admit that I, at times, fall into this trap..
This is not about 80 Syrian dead, it is about putting the hammer down on chemical weapons use, regardless of who used them, period.
The Syrian civil war is not our war, it is a Syrian war – but ISIS is civilization’s war. ISIS is in Syria, therefore those who prefer peace over war are entangled by the ramifications of the Syrian war, unfortunately, as is all of western society. Ignoring it, wishing it away, is useless and detrimental to our future.
Your statement the U.S. military doesn’t care about Chem weapons is simply false. Chem weapons have killed 10s of thousands in the Middle East since the 1980s Iran-Iraq war. Those weapons are the biggest wild-card and indiscriminate threat to U.S. and global stability besides BIO and NUCs. And yes, U.S. civilians fear them, those same civilians we are sworn to protect.
Obviously, you know nothing of my background – making your comment petty, and false. I have served in multiple combat theaters – the Middle East, Central Asia, Caucasus, Southern Philippines, Balkans and worked in Counter Terror and Counter WMD for much of my career. My last assignment, 2012-2013, was as POL-MIL adviser to U.S. Army Central for LTG Brooks, forward deployed to the Middle East, with a large focus on the Syrian civil war, My experience is recent and relevant. Yours? Penis size is irrelevant.
I base my comments on discernible facts, experience, deductive and inductive reasoning. I do not base them on antisemitic bias or outdated precepts.
Your comments reflect your character, Sir. Debate is good, if one has an open mind to hear all perspectives, but useless if you gain nothing from it.
McKinley:
You are a card carrying member of the CMIC and you vote your paycheck. Saying that the US should attack Syria because ISIS had chemical weapons is beyond absurd and wanders into insanity. By the way, the US and Israel were responsible for the creation of ISIS if you care.
And while the rest of the board doesn’t understand the specific meaning of “served in multiple combat theaters” I understand exactly what you meant. You have never been in combat. That’s really easy to figure out.
Israel has been advocating the destruction of the rest of the middle east for almost 40 years. Being anti-Zionist is not being anti-Semitic.
The US has been responsible for the deaths of millions in the Middle East over the past 30 years. The number killed by chemical weapons pale by comparison.
While it is true SH killed Kurds with chemical weapons, Donald Rumsfeld knew he could prove it. He still had the receipts.
Trust me Bob, as one friend to another. Jim I a decent guy and the two of you should really get personalities out of this because you are much too smart for these petty arguments.
Al:
What you have yet to come to grips with is that a lot of seemingly nice and loyal Americans are committing some horrible crimes all in the name of protecting America. The US is responsible for the murder of millions in the Middle East. Everything we touched we destroyed and anyone working for the CMIC thinks it’s just great. Eisenhower was the greatest general in US history and he warned us of the danger.
We are fighting wars that we need not fight all for the purpose of feeding the CMIC. We killed 10,000 American servicemen and mercenaries in Iraq, had another 50,000 with serious injuries, bankrupted our economy and we are still there in the country. At what point does the US admit we are the problem, not the solution?
I am assuming that this is the reason for you not living full time in the U.S. for quite some time as I understand it. I may not agree with you but I do respect your willing to leave your country because of your convictions. And Bob, whether I agree with you or not is simply not the point. I respect anyone who lives by his/her conbiction as long as that person does no harm to others.
Common Bob, I know you want to be seen as the “prettiest baby in the nursery”. Please get over it.
Mr. McKinney,
I agree with you that chemical weapons are an abomination. What do you think of the US use of depleted uranium? To those who argue that it is harmless, I suggest they dust the house they and their families live in with it to prove their conviction.
How about the US provision of chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein to use on the Kurds and Iranians? I’m still waiting for calls for conviction of the US war criminals involved in that. But though it was known at the time, we have the photo of a grinning Rumsfeld shaking Saddam’s hand after the fact.
ISIS? How do you explain that Russia achieved more against ISIS in their first six weeks of involvement in Syria than the US did in the previous 18 months? Why did the US not do anything about ISIS’s convoys of tank trucks full of oil to Turkey, helping them finance their operations? What about the evidence that Obama and Hillary knew that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were (are?) funding ISIS, and did nothing about it?
No one is allowed to criticize any action of Israel without suffering the accusation of being ‘anti-semitic’. Due to over use it’s a worn out red herring.
I like the responses to Mr K.
1. The U.S. Military Dumped 20 Million Gallons of Chemicals on Vietnam from 1962 – 1971
2. Israel Attacked Palestinian Civilians with White Phosphorus in 2008 – 2009
3. Washington Attacked Iraqi Civilians with White Phosphorus in 2004
4. The CIA Helped Saddam Hussein Massacre Iranians and Kurds with Chemical Weapons in 1988
5. The Army Tested Chemicals on Residents of Poor, Black St. Louis Neighborhoods in The 1950s
6. Police Fired Tear Gas at Occupy Protesters in 2011
7. The FBI Attacked Men, Women, and Children With Tear Gas in Waco in 1993
8. The U.S. Military Littered Iraq with Toxic Depleted Uranium in 2003
9. The U.S. Military Killed Hundreds of Thousands of Japanese Civilians with Napalm from 1944 – 1945
10. The U.S. Government Dropped Nuclear Bombs on Two Japanese Cities in 1945
Guess you could get into syphilis experiments and walking soldiers into nuclear explosions too etc
Imagine what we dont know about.
Absolutely terrifying isn’t it, b.
Can you imagine just what an interesting discussion it would be if we all got together for a beer or two? I personally would fly anywhere in the country just to do that.
Yes it is a very overused term, GH and, yes no one is allowed to criticize Israel and that is more that a shame.
Now, we are getting down to common sense as I knew that we finally would.
Didnt Voltare say sumthin like “If you want to know who rules you ask yourself who you cannot criticise”?
Not sure about that one b, but it is a pretty true statement.
US President Donald Trump has sent a letter to the US Congress, informing them about the US missile strike against the Syrian Air Force base, and stating that the US will take additional action to further the country’s national interests, the White House said Saturday.
Good lord, in his letter he had the gaul to state he was promoting stability in the region.”promoting the stability of the region and averting a worsening of the region’s current humanitarian catastrophe.”
Does anyone actually need more proof that the U.S. is siding with isis?
Only the truly feeble minded can think otherwise.
You wonder why we are called “the great satan”?
Not sure, b, that this shows that we are siding with Isis. Again, mu friend, time will tell!
B: I never believed in Armageddon until Bush became president. Those who believe think that it will be the ultimate battle between good and evil. We had best hope that’s not true because guess what camp we would be in?
During Vietnam the Chinese and North Vietnamese called the US a paper tiger. That’s because that’s what we were. And we are called “the Great Satan” for a similar reason.
It may be in Israel’s national interest to take out Assad but it certainly is not in the interests of the US.
A spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia viewed the strike as an “aggression against a sovereign nation” based wholly upon a “made-up pretext.” Russia maintains that Syria did not drop toxic gas-filled bombs on civilians, but rather that regular bombs dropped on civilian areas happened to hit an illicit stockpile of chemicals held by rebels.
Read more: http://conservativetribune.com/russia-responds-syria-strike/
Bob here is Colonel W. Patrick Lang’s take – a retired senior officer of U.S. Military Intelligence and U.S. Army Special Forces (The Green Berets).
In the coming days the American people will learn that the Intelligence Community knew that Syria did not drop a military chemical weapon on innocent civilians in Idlib.
Here is what happened:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-trump-is-an-international-law-breaker/5584052
We know that the “rebels” had and have used chemical weapons. It easily could be the result of a bombing attack on a weapons storage area. That make sense but for Assad to waste the use of chemical weapons and all the issues that that would cause (such as the US launching an immediate attack without any investigation) simply doesn’t make sense.
Assad’s story makes sense, Trump’s story doesn’t. If you take your intelligence from the Fake Stream Media that we know lie about anything and switch your brain off, you might think Trump’s attack on one more sovereign nation with the most flimsy of legal justification is just wonderful.
Call me gulllible, Bob, but I think that the U.Sl. believes beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Assad team used those weapons.
By the way, I will be the first to call myself stupid and gullible if I am proven wrong.
In the same tone, the US believed “beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iraq possessed WMD.” As if government agents don’t lie on a regular basis. The US has an agenda in Syria, they are not candid with the public about what that agenda is and they lie about everything.
Those video clips of Russian aircraft attacking ISIS oil conveys taking oil to Turkey were up to five miles long, nose to tail trucks, just one big line. How come the Russians could find them and the US couldn’t. According to US propaganda, we were attacking ISIS forces for a couple of years before the Russians came in but the Russians accomplished 500% more in six months than the US did total.
What happened last week in Syria just became a lot more clear to me when I read a report from the Russians saying that all the Syrian bombing raids were passed on in advance to the US. The US knew the Syrians were going to bomb that town so they tell their “rebel” buddies, they load the ammo dump up with chemicals, let the Syrians bomb the crap out of a perfect legal and appropriate target and what a surprise, chemicals are let loose.
The US and Trump wanted an excuse to attack Assad and they created their own chemical attack. But as candidate Trump made clear some 45 times, attacking Assad would be a very stupid thing to do and would threaten WW III. He was right all along.
Okay, okay Bob, you are repeating yourself. Folks on our site are smart enough to get it the first time.
Al:
You are on the wrong side of this argument. You and the LTC think the attack was a great idea. Are you not listening to the 25 other voices saying the same thing as me?
Like Candidate Trump I would be happy to repeat 45 times how stupid it would be to attack Syria. It could start WW III. You’re saying, “Well, if I am wrong, I will admit it.”
Well, if this starts WW III as Trump suggested many many many times, you aren’t going to have the option of admitting you are wrong. So you should think about it now.
I am against WW II by the way.
https://mic.com/articles/173471/trump-world-war-iii-attacking-syria-wwiii-ww3#.d4mhV686a
Forcing regime change in this part of the world has not worked that well in the recent past. Why would this time be any different?
Some conspiracies are true, or at least plausible. The following conversation is taken from Stanley Kubrick’s “Dr. Strangelove” (1964), the ultimate cold-war satire and spoof of political and military insanity.
General Jack D. Ripper:
Mandrake, do you recall what Clemenceau once said about war?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake (played by Peter Sellers):
No, I don’t think I do, sir, no.
General Jack D. Ripper:
He said war was too important to be left to the generals. When he said that, 50 years ago, he might have been right. But today, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
🙂
I simply have to see that movie another time. Thanks Steele
Steele,
That was a great article, and true to what the real story that is unfolding. Thanks👍
Thanks, Chartster. I was catching up on the news after watching the Masters most of the afternoon, and that article caught my eye because they provide a backstory and timeline leading up to recent events.
Whats the time on the doomsday clock?
IT IS TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
2017: For the last two years, the minute hand of the Doomsday Clock stayed set at three minutes before the hour, the closest it had been to midnight since the early 1980s. In its two most recent annual announcements on the Clock, the Science and Security Board warned: “The probability of global catastrophe is very high, and the actions needed to reduce the risks of disaster must be taken very soon.” In 2017, we find the danger to be even greater, the need for action more urgent.
It is two and a half minutes to midnight, the Clock is ticking, global danger looms. Wise public officials should act immediately, guiding humanity away from the brink. If they do not, wise citizens must step forward and lead the way. See the full statement from the Science and Security Board on the 2017 time of the Doomsday Clock.
Cheers Markedtofuture!
So we stand on the precipice of self destruction apparently… What a wonderful thought as the weekend draws to a close. Ohh well, Ive a nice bottle of whiskey to drown all the worlds problems…
Okay, Ozibatia, I certainly will.
My recent research shows the following:
Syrian state media has claimed that a US missile attack on a government airbase has killed seven people, including four children, rather than nine, as previously reported.
Nine were wounded and seven killed in total, Talal Barazi, the governor of Homs province, clarified on Friday afternoon.
An earlier report from the Syrian army’s chief of staff General Ali Ayyoub said that the overnight cruise missile strike had killed six people and injured seven more.
It was not immediately clear whether those killed were army personnel or civilians.
Al:
Is your message that killing kids is OK just as long as we are the ones doing it? You really need to read The Art of Peace. I talk about the comment by Albright when she was asked about the US sanctions against Iraq resulting in the deaths of 500,000 children under the age of five. “We think it was worth it.”
That offends me greatly. Killing people has nothing at all to do with winning wars.
That sickness has its own vile stench doesnt it.
I won’t even respond, Bob.
You have known me for a long time and you know that you are simply being offensive.
See what I mean about this situation brings the worst out in otherwise intelligent people.
That was a serious comment, not an attempt to offend. The US has this incredible ability to ignore the killing of innocents by the US and an incredible focus of killing innocents by the other side.
innocent is innocent and we are legally bound by international law to protect noncombatants and we totally ignore those laws.
Al:
To make it simple to understand Al, the US killed Syrians in order to protect Syrians. And to me and most of the world, that makes no sense.
Again, Bob you are repeating yourself.
You really find the U.S. to be offensive and evil don’t you Bob?
I don’t really have a lot of respect for people who just bitch and do not try and make a positive difference.
Notice that Kathy and I are still living and supporting our country with our tax dollars.
Nothing changes:
Warplanes strike Syrian town hit by chemical attack
BASSEM MROUE,Associated Press 7 hours ago:
BEIRUT (AP) — Warplanes on Saturday struck the Syrian town where a chemical attack had killed scores of people earlier this week, as Turkey warned that a retaliatory U.S. missile strike on a Syrian air base would only be “cosmetic” if greater efforts are not made to remove President Bashar Assad from power.
The airstrikes on the opposition-held northern town of Khan Sheikhoun, where 87 people were killed in the chemical attack earlier this week, killed a woman and wounded her son, according to the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and the Local Coordination Committees, an activist collective.
Elsewhere in Syria, U.S.-led airstrikes killed at least 21 people, including a woman and her six children who were fleeing on a boat across the Euphrates River near the Islamic State group’s self-styled capital, Raqqa, the target of a major offensive by U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led Syrian forces, activists said.
An airstrike on a rebel-held town in the northern Idlib province killed at least 18 people, including women and children, according to the Observatory and Ariha Today, an activist group. It was not immediately clear who carried out the strike.
Near the central city of Homs, a bomb exploded aboard a bus carrying workers, killing a woman and wounding more than 20, according to state TV and the Observatory.
This has been going on in Syria since 2014 to the point where the U.S. is coordinating with Russia to insure that nothing takes place between us and the Russians.
Does the fact that this has been going on since 2014 make it right? Hell no!
As I have said for years, we have to stop being the policement of the world. Because tragedies like last Friday continue to occur whether or not there is any “moral” radionale behind them.
Nothing changes:
Congress Goes On Break, Trump Awaits Big Progress On Agenda
By ANDREW TAYLOR – Associated Press – Sat Apr 8, 12:10PM CDT
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is approaching the end of his first 100 days in office without having signed a single major bill into law.
Trump’s drive to repeal and replace the Obama-era health law ran aground in the House in spite of Republican opposition to the overhaul. It was the first time in recent memory that a newly elected president’s initial big proposal had imploded so spectacularly.
The confirmation of Judge Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court stands as the only major victory for Republicans so far.
Congress left Friday for a two-week spring break. Looking ahead, prospects for health care are at best dicey, while other initiatives such as a tax overhaul, infrastructure spending and carrying out Trump’s unpopular proposal for spending cuts aren’t ready for prime time yet.
“In the first 70 or so days I haven’t seen much” in the way of Capitol Hill success for Trump, said Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo. “They’ve had a big, colossal failure with their so-called health care repeal. So I don’t think it’s been much of a success.”
From the view of Republicans, Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., said: “If we want to have durable, sustainable reforms in this country, whether tax reform, health care or anything else, it will need to be done on a bipartisan basis. Everybody knows that.”
The president’s victories have been limited chiefly to rolling back about a dozen regulations issued by President Barack Obama, which Republicans say will relieve businesses from the burdens of compliance costs. The measures, which can’t be blocked by Democrats, have repealed regulations on coal mining near creeks and streams, and limiting methane emissions from oil wells on federal lands.
Fake News?
The week in review 4/9/17 Stefan Molyneux:
Thems the facts to this point. And, these particular facts are undisputable.
Nothing changes:
Nikki Haley’s stock is rising.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/world/americas/trump-nikki-haley-united-nations.html
SYRIAN GIRL RESPONDS TO CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA
b,I just watched this gal with moment of fame!
if it is that easy to trace the chemical weapons, how did they get it wrong in 2013.
A retired general! and you don’t think he is biased?
All the neocons are everywhere.
I have had it with Trump, America and satanists that run the show.
God help us.
This could have been a “false flag” attack, however, Peter Ford, the former UK ambassador to Syria believes the Russian’s explanation of what happened—a munitions and chemical weapon depot of Al Qaeda was struck. He explains that Assad is not “mad” and that he would not have provoked the U.S. Anyone with half a brain would realize he would not have done this right after the U.S. had said that his removal was not a prerequisite for peace. The narrative by the MSM that he was emboldened by the U.S. allowing him to stay is downright laughable. Trump blew it. However, if the man has any conscience and intelligence, he might have done it for a couple of reasons even knowing Assad was not at fault: 1. To send a message to North Korea and others (the Russians won’t be intimidated) 2. It now takes away the argument that he was in collusion with the Russians (which was always a myth) and will allow him to reset our relationship with the Russians going forward not only in forging peace in Syria but a general reset. If the man falls into the neocon camp then the American people have once again been deceived and the U.S. government will continue to be the bully of the world that we’ve come to expect and maybe we are that “great satan” that we’re accused of being. Regardless, America will not be “great again” if Trump continues to be controlled by the very establishment he raled against in his campaign. May God forgive this waning hegemonic nation.
Good points, Doc.
Your point “right after the U.S. had said that his removal was not a prerequisite for peace” highlights the glaring motive for this attack–this major step toward peace had to be sabotaged.
Thanks for the sanity, Charley
Doc, I’m not kidding when I tell you, you have made me proud and its people like you that could restore to some degree my faith in our nation.
You are a older gentleman like me who has refused to be brainwashed. Even in the face of receiving blow-back for your views you are still willing to speak the truth and defy the strong inclination to agree with the national war-hawk narrative that has plagued this nation for decades.
Thank you Doc, much respect!
V
TX, Vortex. I think we’ve seen too much over the years as regards the sick underbelly of our government and the powers that control it. As a result, the sacrifice of the innocents has been unbelievable. Keep talking to family, friends, and others about what is going on and maybe with time the populist movement will grow and righteousness demanded.
Yes Sir, will do!
+1
ditto 2
Why is war always a more favoured option than peace? Power and pennies perhaps?
Oz; you’ve got it. When my kids were young and a major topic hit the news, I would tell them that if they wanted to find truth to always follow the money. It’s always about money/power—and that’s what the phrase “it’s in our strategic interest” is connoting.
+1
Doc,
I appreciate your prior post. It certainly is a false flag, but it’s more of a reverse false flag. I think history will prove that lobbing a few telephone poles at small airfield will move things in the right direction. Trump has negotiated a new peace deal for the Middle East, and no one seems to realize it. Syria has to get cleaned up for the peace deal to work. Many countries have a vested interest regarding that port and the pipelines. I’m sure we will see major progress soon.
Chartster; I couldn’t agree more.
Ron Paul: ‘Zero Chance’ Assad Behind Syria Chemical Weapons Attack
ROBERT DAVID STEELE NORWAY INTERVIEW
Published on Apr 5, 2017
In order to get the word out to a greater audience, Mr Steele has again invited me to share another Norway interview. This one is a bit over an hour and goes extensively into the deep state. 14:00 minute mark…everything is manipulated. 41:30 mark Wikileaks destroyed the DNC – GOP is next. Low volume first minute.
ALERT: JFK Murder Conspiracy SOLVED, but who cares
While the world wonders about President Trump, 54 years ago, a US President was murdered in broad daylight in Dallas, Texas; John Fitzgerald Kennedy – the only Irish Catholic President, and possibly one of the only US Presidents that was not a Freemason. To this day, the facts surrounding this event remain clouded. The ‘official’ Warren Commission report presents fanciful theories about a “Magic Bullet” that was able to go in and out of JFK’s body multiple times, and other wild fantasies. But this official report is ‘official’ and any other explanation of the events of that day are ‘conspiracy theories.’ As time has passed, and secondary information surfaces, there are indications of the true power of the information that was kept secret for so long.
The murder of JFK is perhaps one of the most significant events of the 20th century. In the past 10 years, new information has surfaced that portends to a major re-investigation into the issue. As well, a generation has passed since the event which took place 1963. This article presents two unique viewpoints, previously unpublished, as well as looking at some recently released evidence:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-08/alert-jfk-murder-conspiracy-solved-who-cares
I always check out your posts, MTF, b/c I find lots of good info there.
But I certainly couldn’t find any smoking gun in the mish-mash of this article. At the very least, ZH needed to do some heavy-handed editing before posting this.
Occam’s razor: it was the CIA (Dulles, GHW Bush, etc), LBJ, MIC, mafia, with complicity of groups like FBI.
Solved a few months ago…….and like you say…….Who cares, most young adults do not even know who JFK was……funny how it took 50 yrs, for the establishment to say so…..what a joke…..NEXT 9/11 and Obama’s (Barry S). liar..Birth certificate……..
Is it solved? I didn’t find anything really definitive in this. But it was such a mess I wasn’t willing to dig through it with too much care.
Congress called it a conspiracy ….that is what I read a few months ago….hidden in the news,which no one on MSN picked up…….But , MSN was part of the cover up….
House Subcommittee on JFK…….
But I certainly couldn’t find any smoking gun in the mish-mash of this article. At the very least, ZH needed to do some heavy-handed editing before posting this.
Agree with your smokiing gun – mostly speculation findings. The article seems to have been designed to help assure release of the remaining documents.
In 1992, the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act mandated that in 2017 all remaining JFK records and redactions be released. However, the National Archives has recently informed federal agencies that if they intend on maintaining secrecy over these records they should begin preparing appeals to the next president of the United States. We are working to ensure that the law is upheld. We are calling on you, fellow Americans, to come together and ensure that our government upholds the law.
They didn’t expect Poppa Bush to still be alive ……jmho
Russia, Iran Warn U.S. They Will “Respond With Force” If Syria “Red Lines” Crossed Again
A statement issued on Sunday by a joint command centre consisting of forces of Russian, Iran and allied militia alliance supporting Syrian President Bashar al Assad said that Friday’s US strike on the Syrian air base crossed “red lines” and it would “respond with force” to any new aggression while increasing their level of support to their ally.
…or maybe not. It’s difficult to tell what’s real or fake any more.
http://theduran.com/exclusive-fake-news-story-in-mainstream-and-alt-media-slandering-russia-and-iran
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has scrapped the tax plan he campaigned on and is going back to the drawing board in a search for Republican consensus behind legislation to overhaul the U.S. tax system.
The administration’s first attempt to write legislation is in its early stages and the White House has kept much of it under wraps. But it has already sprouted the consideration of a series of unorthodox proposals including a drastic cut to the payroll tax, aimed at appealing to Democrats.
Some view the search for new options as a result of Trump’s refusal to set clear parameters for his plan and his exceedingly challenging endgame: reducing tax rates enough to spur faster growth without blowing up the budget deficit.
Administration officials say it’s now unlikely that a tax overhaul will meet the August deadline set by Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin. But the ambitious pace to figure out a plan reflects Trump’s haste to move quickly past a bruising failure to broker a compromise within his own party on how to replace the health insurance law enacted under President Barack Obama.
More guns, less butter.
Yeh,Steele, and who really needs more guns at this point!
How can Jared Kushner be a “senior advisor” in this administration when he’s 36 years old and has very limited working knowledge of governance and foreign policy? BTW, his father Charles is a convicted felon. After his release fom prison, Charles Kushner shifted his business from New Jersey to New York City. In early 2007, Kushner Companies bought the 666 Fifth Avenue building in Manhattan for $1.8 billion. He and his family are estimated to have a net worth of $1.8 billion.
Kushner and Ivanka may be trusted, but have little “world” experience.
Steve Bannon might have been OK, but he was ousted by Kushner and Priebus.
We have a bungling amateur for President. Very intelligent, no doubt, but way under water.
Often the best government is minimal government.
I hope Lindsey is correct:
http://kingworldnews.com/larry-lindsey-4-8-17/
good question Steele……on Jared.
The little people put Trump in, and the big money is moving in…..same old game…
Beats me Steele
The religion of Peace strikes again:
https://www.mail.com/news/world/5102606-palm-sunday-church-bombings-egypt-kill-43-wound-do.html#.23140-stage-hero1-2
RAW TALK WITH EX CIA ROBERT DAVID STEELE – THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY – #DRAINTHESWAMP
Colonel James E. Sabow is mentioned at the 9:40 mark in David Steele’s RAW TALK
Who Killed Colonel James E. Sabow, USMC?
(IRVINE, Calif.) – On January 22, 1991, Marine Colonel James E. Sabow, age 51, was found dead by his wife in the backyard of his quarters at MCAS El Toro, California. The Orange County Coroner ruled the death a suicide.
An investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS) reported suicide as the cause of death. However, on a review of the autopsy reports and other evidence, his family and other medical professionals and forensic experts strongly disagree.
Dr. David Sabow, a neurologist from Rapid City, South Dakota, continues the effort to clear his brother’s name, devoting much of the past 19 years and his personal financial resources to this cause.
Dr. Sabow provides support and convincing arguments that Colonel Sabow was clubbed to death in his backyard and then shot in the head with his own shotgun to suggest suicide. The motive for the murder was to stop Colonel Sabow from exposing criminal weapons and drug smuggling from and to military bases[1].
After hearing this story from another Marine veteran, I have to admit at first that I was skeptical and unconvinced of a government cover-up of the murder of a decorated Marine Corps officer. My view of government conspiracies involving the deaths of President Kennedy and Martin Luther King, MKULTRA and even 911 is that they’re mostly grist for cheap paperback novels.
However, after reading the accounts of Colonel Sabow’s tragic death, now I’m not so sure.
http://salem-news.com/articles/january222010/sabow_usmc_ro.php
Big Al, my hat is off to you for providing a forum where a reasonable, responsible, and enlightening discussion of this nature may take place.
A BIG DITTO ON THAT ONE
I am both proud of myself, GH, and all of the participants within this forum.
Do ‘s comments illustrate why he is a star on our show.
I promised Kathy that I would take her out to dinner. I will be back on this forum either later this evening or tomorrow morning.
You folks are again making me stop an think and I thank you for that!
Hi all!
I haven’t had a chance to listen to the weekend politics show (yet) but I have certainly been somewhat amused by reading the comments of listeners here (an animated crew I must say!).
As far as taking things at face value (Trump / Syria / Israel / Russia) I am also somewhat amused at seeing so many jump to conclusions.
I don’t know about Trump, but I believe that the machinations happening around us are like three dimensional chess games (at least by the Russians and the Chinese … I’m not sure that Americans are that smart, but I kinda think that they are).
Everyone (me included) gets so incensed by what we hear in the news (is it fake or is it real?) and now have alternative media to egg us on in the opposite directions.
Sometimes, it helps to have some quiet contemplation about the macro scene unfolding and how events are shaping the directions in favor (or expense) of actors in the game.
Rather than paying heed to the voices that seek to stoke emotion and reaction, I am looking to hear those who can help me make sense of what is happenening.
I recall hearing an interview of James Bradley, an author whose father was said to have been one of the marines in the Iwo Jima photograph, and who went on to discover an unsettling historical diplomatic mission involving Teddie Roosevelt to Japan, chronicled in a book “The Imperial Cruise” which (I heard) describes a racist America’s view of the orient which may likely have laid the foundation to war in the Pacific some years later.
He (Bradley) was lead to these conclusions by his studies of actual archives of documents that he took the time to read in Ivy League University libraries (i.e, source documents, not speculation).
Since I have yet had the opportunity to visit libraries like Yale, Harvard, Princeton and the like, and it intrigues me to hear what they contain (that I don’t know about). It also gives me pause to jump to conclusions about what I hear happening around me.
If you’ve never heard about him, please check out his Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bradley_(author)
We get some reallly stupid comments here and then some really intelligent ones. You, sir, fall into the latter category and I thank you for that.
Pebble has something to add…
Operation Freedom Podcast…. April 9, 2017
John Titus – Lawyer, Founder of YouTube Channel Best Evidence
http://www.davejanda.com/guests/john-titus/sunday-april-9-2017
All starting to be exposed……apple does not fall from the tree……….
More con men running the show………
Yes, the story is certainly troubling, Chartster.
Russia Demands Evidence to Support US Attack on Syria
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov telephoned Rex Tillerson concerning the attack on Syria. The minister had told Tillerson that allegations that the Syrian military had used chemical weapons in the so-called “poison gas incident” lacked any proof whatsoever. Lavrov and Tillerson had agreed to personally continue the talks on Syria, because it is increasingly looking like the “intelligence” community was deliberately trying to mislead the White House.
Tillerson had to come out on CBS television stating that the priority of the US in Syria is to defeat the jihadist militia Islamic state (IS). Trump looks very stupid for allowing the intelligence community to create false flags. This is far more of a crisis than meets the eye. It is not likely that Syria will escalate from here, but there is a clash going on between the bureaucracy and the Trump White House. Can the intelligence community be trusted any more?
Idiot McCain calling for more war in Syria …….zerohedge
McCain still wants desperately to be President, he believes his ticket of supporting Israel and the deep state will get him there. In short terms this is known as looking out for number 1. This man cares for only himself and his ambitions. DT
McCain is 80 years old. He will never be president. I doubt even he is delusional enough to think differently.
DT…..That makes him double dummy (Israel and deep state)…..
Congress head out for vacation time…….when they get back they will have just 5 days to pass a budget………..zerohedge
heads not head……but, heads should roll…..
Chemical assault on the American People…….more americans most liked died this week by the usa govt. than in Syria……..Cath Austin Fitts
Syria is a side issue…the problem we have is home grown
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Re: Seg 4.
I believe Trump was driven by his emotions on seeing the gassed children.
I’m not sure I like to see my President acting on emotions.
Having said that, I appreciateed:
1. Warning the Russians.
2. Limiting the attack mostly to relecent things at the Airport and not going after people.
I have long considered target people by use of drones to be a war crime; especially when many innocent civilians are also involved.