Events of this past week
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In this show Al discusses:
- Segment 1 – James Turk discusses gold.
- Segment 2 and Segment 3 – Al and Alan Butler, of Butler on Business, discuss investing, domestic politics and, of course, the European disaster.
- Segment 4 – Al and Peter Grandich talk gold and the doomsayers.
- Segment 5 – Al and Marshall Berol discuss two of their favorite mining companies.
- Segment 6 – Al and Larry Reaugh discuss the markets.
- Segment 7 – Al closes the successful story on Silver Quest with Randy Turner.
- Segment 8 – Big Al and Trader Rog discuss the events of this past week.
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Morning Bill T,
My mistake, of course I am.
Thanks for the correction!
Big Al
Here she is jumping rope…or trying to…. 🙂
http://theacademyofourlady.org/index.php/news/106/67/Fall-Sports-Spirit-Assembly/d,aol_news_detail
Okay, okay and okay!
Big Mistaken Al is a buffoon!
The heck with all of you, I am going out and play nine holes. (Unfortunately, and then look like even more of a buffoon!)
Oh well, God made me what I am,
Big Al
Amen and Amen…..(“god made me…”)
In my book you could never be a buffoon, Big Al.
I bet you tear up the greens today and maybe even get a hole in one!
And I bet you skip robe better than Michelle LaGarde (and Christine LaGarde, too). 🙂
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Al, problem Spain unemployment,,,solution…Al buys more spanish wines…
Morning Jerry,
Actually, I am not particularly found of most Spanish wines that I have tried.
How about you?
Big Al
the soil must be poor…I have never favored any spanish wines….
but, there must be some out there that are not public, maybe
some local wines…..we need to have david cf2000 check it
out the next time he goes over ,,,
HI Jerry,
It has always seems too sweet for me. (Kind of like sangria.)
Big Al
Yes, but, sangria is great on the beach….
HI Jerry,
How about a great gin and tonic?
Big Al
there are some great small batch gins out there….that was a favorite when I was in
Charleston, SC.
Sangria is available at 1 euro a litre!
Nothing wrong with some of the rioja region reds.
I’m in Spain at the moment.
cfs2000… hope you are fine….I am glad you saw my not…on the wine..
I thought there might be some nice reds….every country has something
to drink…
Buffit..knows about politics and benefits, his dad was in congress….
by the way, thanks for having Butler on ….great input
Morning again Jerry,
Alan Butler is a good guy and a pleasure to have on the show.
Do you live in Atlanta?
Big Al
I hope not for Jerry. It´s an ugly place to live. My humble experience.
Al,, I am living in Florida for the winter…, would never consider living in Atlanta…
to many people….the idea of survival in the future is stay out of big cities…
HI Jerry,
That is exactly why we moved up here to Semiahmoo. The closest traffic light is miles away. Unfortunately, so is the closest grocery store!
Kathy and I are not crazy about living in big cities anymore.
Best,
Big Al
Do you live in Arnold Palmer golf resort….that means you can get to Canada quick
when all heck breaks loose….got a boat…?
by the way , how is the weather this time of year? temp ?
If Buffett is buying the stock of a distressed company you can bet YOU, the taxpayer, will be paying for a bailout.
Buffett is nothing but a criminal crony capitalist but since he helps write the rules what he does is perfectly legal. And YOU and YOUR KIDS will pay.
Kind of interesting Ken what is going on with B of A which was his recent big investment!
Big Al
HI Jerry,
No boat and yes to the golf course. He did design it.
Guess why we moved up year? Hint, it was not the golf.
Weather is varied. Last week is was in the high 20’s and I just walked the back nine and it is about 45. Go figure.
Best,
Big Al
Al:
My guess is so you could drink Canada Dry when you are having a bad week…I was never successful in that quest but Crown Royal hard to beat………..
Morning Dai Uy,
Pretty tough to drink Canada dry. (Interesting play on words!)
Crown is pretty good, but Big Al sticks to good wine in sensible quantities. (Any idea what that means?)
Best,
Big Al
Hey Jerry,
Give me some examples of small batch gins.
Thanks,
Big Al
Al, these are the what I consider small batch gins…
Not your tangueray or bombay…although I like these
Leopaold Bros.Amer.gin
Hendrichs gin..scotland
Magellan original, “IRIS, Natural blue…different.may not be small batch but hard to get.
Martin Miller .london
Citedelle gin…france.
Oxley Classic ..english
The Us dollar is strong because people are willfully ignorant of the fact that at most the US has $ 458 billion of gold against $ 15.6 trillion of current debt.
the US dollar is the best looking horse in the glue factory.
If the EU plummets, falls, crashes,, break up occurs, the US dollar will jump in demand because anyone holding Euro will dump it for anything.
Asian demand for gems and rocks is still very good.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/268257/20111216/exports-indian-gem-jewellery-maintain-15-growth.htm
This demand will ONLY go UP when the Euro plummets, if it plummets.
The reader bashing gold was most likely a paid shill for the evil American banksters or maybe for the evil American govt.
I believe that Fort Knox is empty of PMs. In fact the only PMs there are those used in their high tech electronics to guard those empty vaults. Maybe they are not empty but the I think that the gold there, much of it is actually owned by other govts.
THE FACT THAT THE MEDIA DOES NOT WISH TO DISCUSS THIS PROVES IT
Morning James B,
Hard to disagree.
I, personally, have to agree with James T.
Best,
Big Al
Hi Big Al,
High quality discussions this week-end.
But…
… I must say that Mr. Butler didn´t answer our request (how a sudden US dollar devaluation could be possible in a world where the majority of the world´s currencies are floating?). To bring the 1990 financial collapse of the Soviet Union as a parallel case doesn´t fit in the expected explication because the Soviet government at those times kept the ruble at a fixed exchange rate.
I´m a little bit disappointed about Mr. Butler´s explanation.
Dear Al, you should give your guests more time for preparing the answers to our questions.
Mr. Grandich is really one of the TOP market analysts. Paraphrasing Voltaire, one of the greatest philosophe in history of mankind: “Common sense is not so common” in our days!
I´m sure of one thing: physical precious metals are too valuable. Don´t trade them but accumulate them because the PMs Bull Market is still on the march.
…..How about..”.George Berkeley”-.IRISH philosopher…1690’s
for he did say….”nothing turns out to be so oppressive as a feeble government”
Hello Jerry!
This very fine quote is so true.
My view about our Western World: after a period of time all democracies sadly give small oppressive groups free rein to oppress the majority in the name of wellbeing.
HI Anna,
All I can say is “YEP”!
Big Al
Morning Jerry,
How about, “nothing turns out to be so oppressive as a scared government that does not want to loose its power”?
Big Al
watch out Al….they will start calling” SOCRATES AL..”, and you know what they did to him.
Hemlock,,my dear friend….
Oh Geeze,
Forget my comment. Now, I have to try and get it off this forum!
Big Al
Morning Anna,
Number one, I agree with you re: precious metals.
Number two I appreciate you input re: the guests. My challenge is I have time constraints on the Weekend Show because of the set times for the segments.
I will again discuss this issue with Alan Butler keeping your comment in mind.
Best,
Big Al
Currencies don’t float, they sink at varying rates. Gold rising in all currencies is proof of this. FDR devalued the dollar by more than 70% by decree. That was very sudden. Central bankers today have, so far, opted for a market led devaluation. This does not mean that they won’t, at some point, and under terrible circumstances, become much more active. As John W. Robertson pointed out, it could be the announcement of a huge QE 3. “Shock and Awe” does work on the markets. The bursting of the U.S. T-bond bubble would send the biggest funds in the world panicking into gold. The resulting rise in gold would equal a sudden devaluation of the dollar. To a great degree, all other currencies are likely to fall a similar amount since they are ultimately dollar derivatives. When you combine fear and greed with an ever expanding understanding among market participants, big moves in gold are sure to become quite sudden as this bull market matures.
Over the last decade, the decline in the value of the dollar (and therefore all currencies) has accelerated dramatically. It will accelerate further as imbalances grow and resolutions becomes more urgent.
It’s worth noting that, at least hypothetically, the dollar could go to zero value without the USDX breaking down.
Thank you Matthew for your answer. It all makes sense to me now.
An atrocious outlook for savers/retirees trying to protect their wealth… We are forced to take the elevator to the bottomless pit. Rebellion is programmed in the future.
Have a good starting week tomorrow!
Good Morning Anna and Matthew,
Retirement can be okay if you have “things”. That is exactly why some of our retirement is in real estate.
We are definitely in unsettling times. Folks like us have to look at what really makes sense and take the possibility of a paper economic collapse as a possibility.
Best,
Big Al
A problem with real estate is property tax increases can kill a person on fixed income.
Larry R…..I LIKE HIS CALL…..$100 SILVER….(note this will seem cheap when
gold goes to sinclair’s number for gold at $4500)
You know Jerry,
As I said, I have known Larry for a long time. He is a very interesting man who has been successful, for the most part, over the years.
Hard to disagree with what he said. But, we all have to remember to consider all opinions and then make up our minds.
I am going in the direction of buying silver on Monday. Will let you know.
Big Al
I purchased silver and platium ….I like to “average in ”
if it dips down again…I will buy again…
Long term I am looking for silver over $128(min)…reason, that is a 35to1 ratio
to gold…if gold goes to$4500 , I know some think that the ratio is of no
importance..but, I think time will prove them wrong…
plus, silver at $100 will look very cheap….even if gold only goes to $2500
Hi Jerry,
That is kind of my reasoning re: silver. Our last major purchase was at $14 so if I buy Monday, my average cost could be around $22.
Big Al
It’s really great that people are sharing this inoonmatifr.
q for Anna:
Anna I’ve loved your pass posts!-THX.
If you would kindly opine on the issue of sick as fiat currency is, we still need it for basic ‘stuff”. where is the best place to store 6 months of cash???
Thank you again and happy/healthy holidays-ED
In which country are you living Edward?
thx anna-I reside in NEW YORK<NEW YORK (so good you have to say it twice)-yeah right!! The US of A!
also Anna-I just finished watching “inside job” for the second time-I cannot tell you how angry it makes me. have you seen it??
Edward….you are in the thick of it….keep us informed….
Edward, I lived 8 months in Oradell (NJ) in 1997 and then moved to California. I was always a little bit scared when I was walking through Porth Authority Terminal.
Put your cash in plastic bags and stuff them into several well fermented camemberts and close the fridge. I think it is the best save place in the USA. Not in France of course! That´s the reason why I ask you about your location. 😉
Have a good week-end!
Excuse me, I wrote 1997, it was in 1987.
anna- You as well! while I do love camambert, alas the fed hasnt seen there way to print anything larger than $100 bills. THAT, would require a boat load of cheese!!
I was thinking about a small mom and pop bank that still uses typrwtiters-[(beleive me there’s still one in china town) w/no derivative exposure. Again this onluy cash for buying “stuff” to live on. cant think of anything better, and do not want to have w/my bullion-thx and stay well
Ed
Big Al,
I am having a garage sale here in Beautiful So CAL – what did I talk about to some stranger – you guys got it -INFLATION IS COMING AND COMING FAST!! ( Except in my garage sale 🙂 Hold on, the destroyers of democracy is inflation and unemployment – yikes!
Thanks for all your hard work!!
Marc
You live in Cawleefornia (as Ahhnode sez)?
Well, it sounds like you are going to be voting on several tax increases next November.
And if the DemoNcrats get two-thirds majority in the legislature they can pass any tax increase they want.
They better stay away from property taxes – i.e. prop 13 circa 1978
Guess why the little blond lady and I have decided not to spend a lot of time in Palm Desert?
Big Al
Go Aztecs!
Big Al
hey, Marc…..did they ever get that “exit tax” passed….they were trying to get
you guys to pay a 50% exit tax if you left the state…because there were so many people leaving….
No, I dont believe so…but Prop 13 is under constant, constant attack – A lot of retired folks rely on that tax relief and it was a hard fought victory against political money grubbers looking to tax the hell out of us so they can waste it on expensive nik naks and personal fiascos.
BTW Jerry –
That was funny :)!!!
Big Al,
Peter Grandish is SOOOOOOOOOOO right, What the hell is that “guy” doin at Kitco….I absolutely dont understand his job there! It is a shame he even is allowed to participate in hard asset discussions. Is that “guy” at kitco a token naysayer so that company can have a hint at balance of opinions!? C”MON!!!!
P.S. I refuse to give specific names because I respect everybody’s opinion – even if is akin to swallowing horse excrements!!
Marc
You hit the nail on the head. I am convinced that Jon is there so that Kitco does not give the impression of being biased.
I have not spoken with Jon for over a year and you have to admit that he does give, I guess what you would call, balance.
Remember, none of us have to agree!
Big Al
You are SOOOOO right as well. Mr. Nadler, the legendendary expert in his own mind has been a joke for the seven years I’ve tuned in to kitco for various things
Big Al,
Take a gander at Ronnie Hillman tonite our SDSU running back – we are all calling him the second coming our beloved Marshall Berol – JUST KIDDING:) Marshall Faulk!!
Marc
was that the Faulk who played for the INDY COLTS?
Hey Jerry
Yeah, and the Rams of super bowl 1999 and now on NFL network.
Happy Holidays!!
Yep, I will for sure. Looking forward to watching the game!
Big Al
Big Al,
Seriously, you are the absolute best and such a straight shooter – thank the Lord!!
Merry CHRISTmass!
Marc
Many thanks Marc,
Double go Aztecs!
Big Al
HI Marc,
Comment on Ronnie Hillman, “one heck of a quarterback who the Cajuns contained pretty well.
When you have an opponent like that you have to contain him if you hope to do well.
Again, really a great game!
Big Al
Ooops, sorry Peter Grandich not dish
Hi Big Al,
Another great weekend special.
My question is Is the Euro dollar just a US dollar in a Europe bank not drawing any interest??? Could anyone please help with an answer?
Morning Keep Stacking,
No, you really have two different currencies. But, we have to remember that today all currencies are very, very inter-related.
Best,
Big Al
Hi Al,
Love the show. Just wondering your opinion on what will happen to the share price of RPM after the court case is figured out?
Cheers James
Hi James,
I will definitely keep you posted on this situation.
My personal feeling is that if the decision goes against Rye Patch you will see a drop in share price.
That certainly does not mean that it is not a good company. I truly believe that it is. (Not investment advice!)
Big Al
James
This show is the absolute BEST on the web…!!!!
All the best
Hi Marc,
You are very generous in your comments. We all thank you so much and promise to keep trying as hard as possible.
Best,
Big Al
Hello Al,
It is easy for me to see why gold stocks are down. In the past four years I have subscribed to a number of news letters on investments in gold stocks. If I sold out today I would not even break even. On the other hand 75% of my investments have been in gold bullion over the same time period and I have made probably 100% on bullion. Right now I would be delighted to sell and get back all of my money from gold stocks. At this point I don’t care if a number of my stocks turn out to be 10 or even a 100 bager. I would rather have 100% in gold, silver and platinum bullion and quit spending many hours every week reading gold articles and listening to programs. By the way I greatly appreciate the effort you and Roger make to provide a really great public service. Thanks, Dale
Hi Dale,
Many thanks for the kind words.
Makes my weekend!
Big Al
Dale,
I came across this article on Market Oracle, which is worth taking a look at. I’ll pull a section that accompanies a pyramid graph that should be looked at (with physical bullion a the foundation, and the junior mining shares at the apex.)
Here is the pasted section:
Mining stocks and bullion are entirely different asset classes. During a rising trend mining stocks are often correlated to the metals; however, in a downturn such as we experienced in 2008 they can become more correlated to the broad equity markets. Because bullion is a safe haven during financial crises, it tends to outperform mining stocks during turbulent times – often quite dramatically.
Of course, there are several categories of mining stocks, and each of these categories has a different risk/reward relationship and volatility profile. From a risk perspective, exploration juniors are at the top of the pyramid; further down are companies that have discovered reserves but are in feasibility analysis or in permitting; further down still are the producers.
But since most mining companies do not pay dividends and have a depleting asset base, they are more suitable for short-term speculation than long-term wealth preservation or portfolio insurance. Again, without a physical bullion component, portfolios are neither balanced nor diversified.
And here is the article link:
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article10198.html
p.s. – reading the article has made me want to consider selling my shares (at a 30+% loss.)
HI Dale,
I am not personally selling my shares at this point. I may to some tax loss selling before the end of the year. If so, I will let you all know.
That is a good article, by the way. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Best,
Big Al
Hi Dale,
My thoughts exactly. I did sell some for tax loss purposes but am holding most. I have also taken profits along the way. I do believe at some point I will be very happy with thier performance. After all, with more people buying physical there is bound to be a shortage which is when the mining stocks will really perform
Gold = Ron Paul. He was on Leno and other shows. I’m voting for him, there’s no other in my mind.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=257C3E2F32D6EA89
Thanks for the link, Mr. Martin!
Big Al Korelin
Good morning everyone,
There is a must listen to interview with Jim Rickards on King World News Part I & II. You will completely understand the game. This is exactly why I will get out of currency anything including IRA , 401 etc and keep stacking.
Hhttp://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2011/12/17_Jim_Rickards.htmlere is part 1 of the Jim Rickards interview:
Karen…..great listen to….thanks ……I posted the other day Egon von Greyer another great listen to ,,,if anyone goes to the web site ,check it out….
good morning Al,
Great weekend show as usual. Peter Grandich is right on!!
Thanks Karen,
Yep it was a good one and fun to put together.
Big Al
“The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.” John Maynard Keynes.
Putting the above quote another way, “The Fed, other central banks and their governments can remain irrational longer than their citizens can remain solvent”, seems to me to be a more accurate account of what is happening. In fact I think those at the Fed and in economic control are counting on this fact to punish people from saving, hence negative interest rates, manipulation of currencies and their exchange rates and the control of money through derivatives (Shorting of failure in order to profit off insidious actions taken by governments).
The so fiat prices of real money like gold and silver in these markets where total amount of “contract silver” traded in one day at the COMEX can normally be more than the total Worlds annual mine production.
“”When I talked to the head of deliveries at COMEX NYMEX, I was like, ‘What if 4% of the people want deliveries?’ He said, ‘Oh Kyle, that never happens. We rarely ever get a 1% delivery.’ And I asked, ‘Well what if it does happen?’ And he said, ‘Price will solve everything’ And I said, ‘Thanks, give me the gold.'” Kyle Bass
http://goldsilver.com/news/15-brilliant-insights-from-hedge-fund-superstar-kyle-bass/
So the question is, To what degree will these Central Banks and their governments go to push their citizens into poverty, while transferring all wealth to the less than 1%, and to what degree will these citizens allow it?
CLAY a bigger percentage than you think…..
People still do not get it….
but.,,,,Kyle B….may alert some more big money….sooner or later all heck will
break loose…..but, when, who knows….but, you can bet that there will be plenty
of shake outs along the way….Gartman is a good example of a shake out, and one
who does not have a clue…
You know, you talk about people being pushed into poverty, listen to today’s second Daily Editorial.
Big Al
Good Morning all you great people,
Please note my comment found on the Weekend Special section.
All the best,
Big Al
Al: Happy to know you are not depressed. Perhaps it is my ears that are depressed. More likely however, it is my brain between my ears that is depressed.
I know to a fact that the great majority of people throughout the world are good people, but why is it so many leaders and those in power are not good people? Is that just my perception? I don’t think so because there have been and still are some really great people who have suggested the same. I have been and lived in over 40 Countries around the World in my life and in nearly all these places I have come to know that poor people can be trusted more than wealthy, and it is not poor people who work for or control governments it is the wealthy. In some places, most specifically the US, if a poor person happens to go to Congress they always come out wealthy. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. A single poor person has very little power, but a wealthy person does. A wealthy person can do wonderful things, like George Washington, Adams, Jefferson and more, but a wealthy person can also do terrible things like Nancy Pelosi, Warren Buffet, George Soros and so many more. There are so few of the former and way to many of the later.
Vote for and give support to Ron Paul, he is a good choice to save America all the rest won’t.
Hi Clay,
Those are pretty interesting comments regarding rich and poor.
I would say that, my experience has shown that there is truth in what you say in many cases.
Ron Paul? Of course!
Big Al
Suggest you ask paul vanEeden what he thinks the price of gold should be. He applies a value based on the actual change in the money supply. I believe, he would suggest that the price of gold should be about $1,000 (latest published calculation is a little old).
Anything in excess of that price is based on fear or manipulation.
NO
reg cole…..does anyone really know what the money supplies is, or actually the change? Do you really believe the govt. stats?
Better go listen to John Williams…..if you do not know who he is , you may do yourself
a favor and check into it.(not trying to be smart)….respectfully….Jerry ootb
I´ve had a look on Paul van Eeden´s website.
In my opinion, he made a mistake by calculating his Theoretical Gold Value.
He omitted to interact properly his own datas of money supply AMS(historical chart) with those of the gold value.
Based on his own numbers I come to the result that today´s Theoretical Gold Value should be $1,710.43 instead of $850.82 . The correction seems to reflect more the actual gold price but some analysts affirm gold should be by approx. $2,500 inflation adjusted.
Anna, great work…., I thought Paul van was a little low….thanks for the follow up
Quick comment to Marc,
Really a great game last night!
Too bad about the outcome for the Aztecs, but really well played!
Big Al
I forgot to ask a question to everyone here, as I’m not a seasoned investor, particularly in the mining sector, and could use some advice. Being in the US, I’m currently invested in OTC shares of several of the company sponsors of Al’s website here. I’m only just beginning to feel concerned that investing in shares in the pink sheets is a dangerous game. I own six companies on the pink sheets. I’m suddenly very upset that I’ve done this. Can anyone here offer me any help or advice on what I should do? I’d appreciate it so much. (I know I have only contributed to the blog here just a few times, but, Al and Roger, thank you so much for it. It is on of the top three websites I visit daily.)
All the best,
Brian
I agree with Karen. The worst thing about pink sheets listings is liquidity (low trading volumes) and price. Market makers usually get a fraction of a cent per share on each trade.
As long as you always use limit orders and patience, you should be fine. Of course, it will be much easier to exit when sector-wide enthusiasm returns. Liquidity will rise while bid/ask spreads will fall; making a fair price easier to attain.
Beyond all this, you’re risks should be about the same as those of us who buy on the TSX venture exchange.
HI Matthew,
Good point,
Big Al
I forgot to mention that I’ve used the pink sheets in the past, and my son still does. SIPC insurance applies (up to $500,000). Those affected by MF Global in the futures market were not covered by SIPC.
Thanks, Matthew. Much appreciated…
HI Matthew,
So true regarding the SIPC insurance.
Big Al
HI Brian,
If you want to trade Canadian mining stocks, I would suggest you call a Canadian stockbroker or a U.S. broker who is well versed in this arena.
I will put up a list of brokers who I know that can help.
Best,
Big Al
Hi Brian,
You could open a global account at etrade. OTC or pink sheet stock have lower listing standards which is why there might be a concerned with a pink stock. However if you are buying quality stocks it should not be a problem.
Karen and Matthew,
Thank you both so much. Your advice has eased my worries. I’ll stay patient, and hold on to them. I’m looking forward to when sector-wide enthusiasm returns. Hopefully before too long!
Hi Al,
I found this interesting:
Peter Schiff on NDAA bill:
http://peterschiffchannel.blogspot.com/2011/12/peter-schiff-on-ndaa-bill-people.html
Wouldn’t Peter make a great running mate for
Ron Paul?
bobby
Bobby…….never thought of Peter,,but,you have a great point…
What do you think about what Krugman had to say about Peter in his Sunday editorial?
Big Al
Thanks lots for sharing this with all of us you esainteslly know what you might be talking about! Bookmarked. Kindly also stop by my web page =). We could have a link exchange contract among us!
When you say Michelle LaGarde, are you referring to Christine LaGarde of the IMF?