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The JCPOA, Korea and the tariff tiffs are all interrelated. If President Donald Trump chooses not to renew the sanctions waiver, the JCPOA is not necessarily dead. Photo by Zach Gibson/UPI

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On the evening of Sept. 10, 2001, most Americans slept well. No one thought that the next day would change the fate and future of the United States and much of the world as well. The destruction of New York City’s Twin Towers at the hands of al-Qaida prompted a war on terror and military interventions into Afghanistan and Iraq that continue nearly 17 years later.

Over the coming days and weeks, America faces three issues with potentially profound consequences that could approach those of Sept. 11. By Saturday, the president must decide whether to renew the sanctions waivers for Iran in keeping with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. Concurrently, the White House must deal with the prospect of negotiations with North and South Korea on the “denuclearization” of the peninsula and a possible tariff war with China and the European Union.

To complicate and confound the president’s attention, the war in Syria and special counsel Robert Mueller‘s investigation into Russian involvement in the past election, as well as any possible wrongdoing by President Donald Trump and his family and associates will not disappear. And the extraordinary interview by new Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani on Fox that revealed presidential fibbing over payments to porn actress Stormy Danielscannot be helpful, let alone impose further demands on the White House’s precious allocation of time. In other words, the making of firestorm at home and abroad are real. The question is who has the matches to ignite a huge conflagration.

The JCPOA, Korea and the tariff tiffs are all interrelated. If the president chooses not to renew the sanctions waiver, the JCPOA is not necessarily dead. Iran has mechanisms to protest that decision. The sanctions regime is incredibly complicated and will not automatically snap back. How secondary sanctions might affect the EU and the P-5 who are signatories to the agreement is opaque at best. But these uncertainties will have great impact, especially for China, which may see this as an opening for further economic inroads into Iran.

Similarly, if a trade war is not prevented, China and the EU will retaliate. But China is vital to the Korean negotiations. How will those be affected? History provides some examples. But none are nearly as complicated given the entangling nature of these three issues.

In 1972, as President Richard Nixon was preparing to go to the Soviet Union to sign two strategic arms agreements, North Vietnam had launched an offensive. Nixon escalated the bombing campaign and mined Haiphong Harbor with Russian merchant ships alongside the piers. His gamble was that detente was more important to Moscow. He was correct.

Further, White Houses are hard-pressed to deal with one serious crisis at a time. Bandwidth and time are limited. Often when a second crisis arises, such as North Korea‘s hijacking of the USS Pueblo in early 1968 as the Tet Offensive mounted in South Vietnam, it is ignored or deferred because of the necessity of coping with larger issues. Now Trump has three international ticking time bombs to defuse along with several seemingly radioactive domestic crises.

With a brand new national security adviser and secretary of state, no matter how clever each may be, grasping the details and nuances of each of these three negotiations on the run is close to mission impossible for anyone. Understanding the possible interconnections and second-, third- and fourth-order consequences likewise is a daunting task. And deriving a policy and strategy that can safely navigate between and among a three-monster version of Scylla and Charybdis amidst the chaos in the White House over investigations and allegations of criminal activities is worthy of a grand prize.

Given the president’s long experience in the real estate and television sectors, it is possible that he sees each of these three issues — Iran, Korea and tariffs — as independent and separate to be solved individually. If that is the case, the chances for a serious or even catastrophic miscue are not zero. And “success” in one such as honoring Trump’s declaration that the JCPOA is the “worst deal” ever could induce an explosion in the other two, especially if the re-imposition of sanctions sparked a trade war with Europe and China.

Under these circumstances, outside advice will most likely never reach inside the Oval Office. The only hope is that someone close to the president will understand that taken together, if mishandled, the nation could be facing another Sept. 10 in slow motion.

Harlan Ullman is the principal author of “shock and awe” and a Distinguished Senior Fellow and visiting professor at the U.S. Naval War College. His latest book is “Anatomy of Failure — Why America Loses Every War It Starts.” Follow him @harlankullman.

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153 Comments
      May 08, 2018 08:03 AM

      With Fed Chair Jay Powell implying that ’emerging markets are on their own’, it appears the collapse of Argentina’s currency has sent them running into the arms of The IMF to secure a bailout.

        May 08, 2018 08:14 PM

        END OF THE DAY>>>>>>>>>>
        Is Fed buying back the stock market……..

          May 08, 2018 08:49 PM

          BIG DEAL>……gold up $2…….yepppeeeeeeeeeeee

          May 09, 2018 09:30 AM

          What do you think, OOTB.

            May 09, 2018 09:28 PM

            I think , we are all in trouble……..the FED IS burying us…with DEBT.

            May 10, 2018 10:09 AM

            The country is buried in debt and I cannot disagree at all Jerry.

        May 09, 2018 09:29 AM

        Unfortunately, OOTB, that seems pretty normal in this day and age.

      May 09, 2018 09:58 AM

      The Federal Reserve’s monetary policies coupled with America’s fractional reserve banking system and currency monopoly could be keeping interest rates down by as much as 5 percentage points throughout the yield curve . If that is correct, the federal government is providing more than $700 billion in hidden subsidies each year* to businesses.

      May 08, 2018 08:08 AM

      the way as we near the end of said earnings season (the best since 2010), hedge fund favorite stocks have underperformed sharply.

        May 09, 2018 09:33 AM

        Interesting implication for the conventional market.

    May 08, 2018 08:20 AM

    More references to 9/11. It’s not what you know, it’s who you listen to.
    The posit explanation does not cut the mustard test.
    More guests from the Naval War College. What did you expect?
    Agenda?

      May 08, 2018 08:23 AM

      He is kind of clueless on 911………..IMO

        May 08, 2018 08:24 AM

        War is a Racket……..better author wrote this one……

          May 08, 2018 08:26 AM

          So far the guy is total wrong on Korea and Trump…..

            May 08, 2018 08:27 AM

            As far as Iran………we will see in a couple of hours…….

            May 09, 2018 09:37 AM

            If you mean that Trump would be wrong about his solution to that situation, you do seem to be correct, OOTB.

          May 09, 2018 09:36 AM

          That is a valid conclusion, I believe.

        May 08, 2018 08:26 AM

        We live by fallacy and delusion becomes wisdom.

          May 08, 2018 08:41 AM

          Evocation of the ephemeral and the apathetic need to continually kill innocent women and children.

            May 08, 2018 08:56 AM

            Matthew 23 covers it…….

            May 09, 2018 09:39 AM

            I happen to agree with you on this JohnK.

      May 09, 2018 09:35 AM

      Morning JohnK, you are jumping to an erroneous conclusion about Harlan who by the way is very critical about the President

    b
    May 08, 2018 08:45 AM

    Not sure why so much focus on Trump, sure he is the president, but he doesnt really decide anything does he?

      May 09, 2018 09:40 AM

      Morning b, I firmly believe that he is taking much more action than those in office before him. So far, I seem to have been proven correct.

    May 08, 2018 08:47 AM

    It’s just as intellectually lazy to doubt everything your told,
    As to believe everything you are told.

      May 09, 2018 09:41 AM

      Words of wisdom, JohnK!

    May 08, 2018 08:15 AM

    National Security Concerns? Really?
    You can’t handle the truth. Now get back in your pen. Baahhh…………………………..

        May 08, 2018 08:58 AM

        Now that is really …..BS……2021……..!!!!!!!!!!!

          b
          May 08, 2018 08:16 PM

          Not bs, its what he has been told to do.

          I think the papers show the people that killed jfk are still alive, maybe still in office.

          How long did it take to find out the Bush family was supporting Hitler?
          That Bayer was selling asprin in the states and zyclon b in germany?

          Anyone that could be prosecuted has to die first, maybe their kids too.

          I believe it was a 50 year secret that britain new Coventry was going to be bombed in advance.

          When will they let people know publicly Pearl was no surprise?

          Trump is just part of the same people that have been running things in the west for over 100 years.
          MY question is are they running Russia and China too?

          All the worlds a stage.

            May 08, 2018 08:51 PM

            Well, I would have to agree with the majority of your comments………
            Satin is dug in deep…………..

            GH
            May 08, 2018 08:36 PM

            “MY question is are they running Russia and China too?”

            Mine too.

            It appears that WW1 & WW2 were set up by the banksters. Of course, they always do a good job of putting the blame elsewhere, since they control the media.

            It feels like they’re setting up another big one. But what exactly the story line will be, who knows.

            b
            May 08, 2018 08:20 PM

            Interesting GH, you have the same question.

            That would explain a few things. Like the recent premature Russian withdraw from Syria.

            Russia: Washington’s Next Vassal? (5/5/2018) PCR site.

            GH
            May 08, 2018 08:12 PM

            We know the Ziobanksters funded the Bolshevik Revolution. It also appears they may have handed China to Mao through their operatives around FDR and Truman.

            https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4691-china-betrayed-into-communism

            What are the odds they truly let Russia slip out of their grasp? Maybe. I don’t know. Anatoly Golitsyn, Perestroika Deception.

            ia800305.us.archive.org/27/items/AnatoliyGolitsyn/Golitsyn-ThePerestroikaDeception-TheWorldsSlideTowardsTheSecondOctoberRevolution1995.pdf

            For years people have been talking about gold moving to Asia and inferring the banksters were shooting themselves in the foot. Right, because they’ve proven themselves to be real dimwits /sarc/. How much of that gold is moving to Asia under their control?

            If Putin is not what he seems, then America is in a very perilous position, because its own leaders are laughable, a reflection of the dumbed-down populace. Is America even capable of defending its true interests anymore? Not that I can see.

            If one views WW1&2 as the bankers setting up the most powerful countries and empires to destroy each other, and then considers today’s situation, the potential for the same to be done now is clear.

            At some point, one way or another, they will attempt to remove the threat of the heavily armed North American, whether by disarming and finishing their devolutionary agenda, sparking a civil war, or destroying it from outside.

            And clearly they love slaughtering Christians and Muslims.

            May 09, 2018 09:45 AM

            Of course the Japanese actions re: Pearl Harbor were easily predictable. Pretty obvious given the circumstances. I am very convinced, at this point, that Trump is his own man.

            b
            May 09, 2018 09:45 PM

            Al, the reason I figure the Japanese action on Pearl was predictable is we had broken the Japanese codes years before.

            Herbert O Yardley
            “the education of a poker player”

            found it

            Herbert Osborn Yardley (April 13, 1889 – August 7, 1958) was an American cryptologist. He founded and led the cryptographic organization the Black Chamber. Under Yardley, the cryptanalysts of The American Black Chamber broke Japanese diplomatic codes and were able to furnish American negotiators with significant information during the Washington Naval Conference of 1921-1922. Recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal. He wrote The American Black Chamber (1931) about his experiences there. He later helped the Nationalists in China (1938–1940) to break Japanese codes. Following his work in China, Yardley worked briefly for the Canadian government, helping it set up a cryptological section (Examination Unit) of the National Research Council of Canada from June to December 1941. Yardley was let go due to pressure from Washington

            Notice the dates 1938-41
            Pearl Dec 7 41.

            That poker book is an easy quick read and other than learning how to play poker it includes some neat “spy stuff”.

        May 09, 2018 09:42 AM

        I have no idea what those files actually refer to. Do you?

    May 08, 2018 08:57 AM

    Sadly, Mr. Ullman and others with his abilities are not on the inside. He doesn’t seem to fear a failure on any front like I do. Having just thrown the Iran agreement into the trash can, trump seems to have lanced the first boil. Let’s see what it produces. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/watch-live-president-trump-announces-his-decision-iran-nuclear-deal

      May 08, 2018 08:02 PM

      EU…….going to take it on the chin……..$25Billion in trading with Iran…….

        May 08, 2018 08:05 PM

        Russia will be taking advantage of this. , will up the price on NAT GAS…….EU will be happy this winter..
        Maybe Mueller can tie Trump to the Russian deal via IRAN…………LOL

      May 09, 2018 09:49 AM

      Morning Silverdollar,

      Harlan does fear “failure”. You need to read his book.He covers many of the subjects that are discussed on this site by folks like GH; JohnK; OOTB; and, others. Pick it up as it is a good read.

    b
    May 08, 2018 08:03 PM

    Iran will remain in nuclear deal, US withdrawal illegal – Rouhani

      May 08, 2018 08:08 PM

      Iran just got thumped ………they are not dealing with Jimmy Carter……….lol

        May 08, 2018 08:10 PM

        I think Trump has some issues with Germany, according to “Q”

          May 08, 2018 08:17 PM

          All roads lead to Cypress.

        May 09, 2018 09:51 AM

        No he is not dealing with President Carter OOTB!

    May 08, 2018 08:16 PM

    If you ever have a hard time making sense of American Foreign Policy, just ask your self what would Israel do?
    The House of Saud
    The House of Windsor
    The House of Rothchild.
    Any questions?

      May 08, 2018 08:52 PM

      OK,………just more confirmation………

    b
    May 08, 2018 08:20 PM

    I wonder if selling t shirts with goyim printed on them would be antisemitic?

      May 08, 2018 08:24 PM

      b:
      What is the word for Gentile hate?

        May 08, 2018 08:26 PM

        clarification: Those that hate the Gentiles.

          May 08, 2018 08:54 PM

          The jewry is still out on that one……. 🙂

            b
            May 08, 2018 08:32 PM

            ha ha

            May 09, 2018 09:53 AM

            Common OOTB you are smarter than that. Pretty broad brush that you are using. How about “The Proclamation of the Kingdom”?

            May 09, 2018 09:48 PM

            Remember Owl……..there is neither Jew nor Gentile
            Galatians 3:28-29 King James Version (KJV)
            28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

            29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

            May 09, 2018 09:49 PM

            Jews better get a revelation……… 🙂

            May 09, 2018 09:10 PM

            The Proclamation of the Kingdom , which Jesus was preaching was referring to the Jews, which he came for at the beginning……..Matthew , Mark , and Luke , is directed to the Jews…..Our dispensation of GRACE, does not begin, until the After the Death , burial and resurrection ….Our citizenship is in heaven
            Philippians 3:20-21 New International Version (NIV)
            20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

    May 08, 2018 08:22 PM

    Our whole life we threw away the core of the apple when the seed was the most nutritious and beneficial part. “World With Out Cancer.”

      b
      May 08, 2018 08:37 PM

      Whats that about apple seeds?
      When I eat an apple there is no core, well, I dont have cancer so I guess it works.

      I knew a fellow that had garlic at his front door, he claimed never to have been visited by a vampire, he figured that was proof it worked.

        May 08, 2018 08:05 PM

        b:
        Both my parents died early compared to most from cancer.
        Things aren’t looking real good for me. I have no choice but to think”outside the box.”
        I sometimes become very annoyed with CFS, but the man did enlighten me to “World Without Cancer.”Thank You again CFS.

          May 08, 2018 08:11 PM

          b:
          The subliminal message was the irony of life.

            May 08, 2018 08:28 PM

            Thanks G.H :
            I don’t have cancer,just to make that clear.
            Here’s another:
            All things in life are not fair.
            Just because your dealt a bad hand
            doesn’t mean you should stop playing.
            God willing, of course.

            May 08, 2018 08:36 PM

            I just ordered the book from Amazon. Thank you.

          GH
          May 08, 2018 08:11 PM

          Netanyahu Unaware of the Camera ‘America can easily be moved’.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrtuBas3Ipw&app=desktop

          Of course, we knew this, and his attitude already.

          One has to trust the translation, but the subtitles do correspond to his body language.

            GH
            May 08, 2018 08:15 PM

            oops. not sure why this posted here.

            R.e. cancer, JohnK, I’ve got loads of links on natural approaches, if you’re interested.

            This one’s a little dated, maybe, but I thought it was very good. Much of what applies to current patients is also applicable to prevention.

            https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Strategies-Patients-Russell-Blaylock/dp/0758202210

            May 09, 2018 09:18 PM

            A lot of idiots in the world and he is proving to be one of them so he is not a friend of the Jews in the world if he, in fact, said that.

          CFS
          May 09, 2018 09:32 AM

          Just because I’m a 14 year survivor of glioblastoma, 4 year survivor of melanoma, that’s no reason to get annoyed yet.

            May 09, 2018 09:27 PM

            Interesting, I am happy for you. Kathy i a three and a half year survivor of amyloidosis.

      May 09, 2018 09:54 AM

      One could take that comment as being blasphemous!

    May 08, 2018 08:32 PM

    coincidence?

      CFS
      May 09, 2018 09:35 AM

      Obama is a Communist, English empire hating, Muslim-loving piece of….. .

        May 09, 2018 09:12 AM

        Well of course he is……..Muslim….with a name like Obama is a good clue…… 🙂

    May 08, 2018 08:33 PM

    I have said it before, there is this huge pyramid of debt everywhere you look, big trouble is brewing. Still if you listen to the talk from the sidewalk most people see nothing but the phones they clutch in their hands. The storm is coming but to most people the cloud in the sky looks no bigger than a man’s hand. DT

      May 08, 2018 08:12 PM

      Of course your right on about the debt D.T.
      As far as concerns,debt is not the worry as much as contagion is.
      The fire storm that is coming will not start out as a blaze, but rather a spark.
      Many will miss it as I have in the past. Not this time.

        May 08, 2018 08:28 PM

        Yesterdays commentary with Mr Rubio pointed this out very succinctly.
        The IMF have caused insurmountable amounts of suffering through “USURY” and not heeding the immutable laws of the universe.Default is not an option.

      May 08, 2018 08:10 PM

      The debt was astronomical a long time ago and I thought it would bring this corrupt system down then. Shows you what little I know.

      That said, I do agree with you (even if I haven’t walked 18 miles a day in your shoes 🙂 )

      I have no idea how much longer this debt based system can last, but given that this system is based on an ever increasing debt load it seems its implosion is inevitable.

      But like I said before, what the hell do I know? When I raise these concerns people look at me like I’m from another planet and tell me everything will be fine and then they tell me about their investments to prove it, making me feel like the dumbest person in the room.

        GH
        May 08, 2018 08:59 PM

        Tragihilarious, Ebolan. I guess all us tinfoil hatters have experienced similar.

        Absolutely–debt is the key.

        It all goes back to the money changers. They’ve informed us of their plans. But who’s listening?

        e.g.

        “We shall have world government, whether or not you like it. The only question is whether world government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
        — James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950
        Senate Report (Senate Foreign Relations Committee) (1950). Revision of the United Nations Charter: Hearings Before a Subcommittee of the Committee on Foreign Relations, Eighty-First Congress. United States Government Printing Office. p. 494.

          May 08, 2018 08:05 PM

          I tell you GH, I am giving up trying to figure out when this debt-based ponzi scheme collapses. Instead, I’m going to watch Trump play 4D chess. 🙂

          https://imgur.com/iUk6Evt

            GH
            May 08, 2018 08:35 PM

            LOL

            CFS
            May 09, 2018 09:38 AM

            The debt collapse is still over 2 years away, but the clock is ticking.

            May 09, 2018 09:21 AM

            Funny 666D ……shalom ……….

            May 09, 2018 09:38 AM

            CFS, where you been?

            May 09, 2018 09:45 AM

            CFS, how do you arrive at over two years for the debt collapse?

            May 09, 2018 09:25 PM

            Just guessing………………IMO

        May 09, 2018 09:32 PM

        Eddy, I too at times feel like the dumbest person in the room. Oh well!

      May 09, 2018 09:30 PM

      Interesting analogy, Mr. Tray!

    GH
    May 08, 2018 08:12 PM

    Netanyahu Unaware of the Camera ‘America can easily be moved’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrtuBas3Ipw&app=desktop

    Of course, we knew this, and his attitude already.

    One has to trust the translation, but the subtitles do correspond to his body language.

    GH
    May 08, 2018 08:11 PM

    Old women being thrown in prison for daring to question the Jewish version of the Holocaust

    http://tomatobubble.com/haverbeck_schaefer.html

      b
      May 08, 2018 08:58 PM

      Ya, anyone questioning is put in jail.

      Wont be long and noone alive will be questioning any more.

      Funny they’re so afraid of questions tho.

        GH
        May 08, 2018 08:23 PM

        I understand the Aushwitz numbers were modified multiple times. But it would have been illegal in a number of countries to have debated it in public (I don’t know the details of the laws). I guess only the Chosen may inquire into the details?

        What a blatant farce. Could it be any better designed to inspire suspicion and doubt?

        But then, it would appear that is part of the agenda as well, because it engenders anti-semitism, on which the Jewish power-players thrive. It gives them a traumatized, brainwashed mass of intelligent people who energetically organize to defend Jewry as directed by…those who fund and shape the NGOs agendas, i.e. the banksters & cronies.

          May 09, 2018 09:36 PM

          So GH, are you saying that the Holocaust numbers are phony? Never thought that I would hear this from you.

            GH
            May 09, 2018 09:58 PM

            No, I’m not saying that yet, Al. I haven’t done the research yet, and I do my best to remain agnostic until I investigate.

            But the draconian, immoral prohibition on free inquiry into the matter raises a red flag.

            And after digging up lie after lie on all the major matters that affect us, with the same perpetrators in the shadows time after time, one can only expect more lies on this topic.

            GH
            May 09, 2018 09:10 PM

            How many of the things you learned in your public school education have you investigated independently, Al? Every time I do, I find I’ve been lied to.

            E.g. WW2, for most people of my generation is a glossed over, simplified version written by the victors. As I read the history, I am shocked, and realize what a distortion the standard, collective American memory of the event is.

            It makes sense–it’s not as if the false flags and propaganda lies are a recent thing. To understand what is going on in current events is an ongoing challenge that requires a lot of work. Why should 70-year-old history be any more honest than today’s news?

            So in a nutshell, don’t believe anything you haven’t investigated independently.

            If only I had a dime for every time someone has denied the conclusions I have reached through extensive research, on a topic they have never investigated independently at all!

            GH
            May 09, 2018 09:16 PM

            Those who say the numbers are phony, for instance, say that the number of dead at Auschitz was for a long time said to be 4 million, but has since been revised down to 1.5 million. Yet the overall tally of 6 million has not changed.

            Is this argument accurate? I don’t know, I haven’t verified it yet. But I have seen a number of apparent glitches in the matrix like this that warrant investigation.

            b
            May 09, 2018 09:49 PM

            History & Scriptural Origin of the Six Million Number
            By John “Bird man” Bryan

            Bird man Bryant: History & Origin of the Six Million Number
            http://www.thebirdman.org/...

            b
            May 09, 2018 09:49 PM

            /Jews-History&ScripturalOriginOfThe6MillionNumber.html

            b
            May 09, 2018 09:52 PM

            The “Six Million” Myth – The Truthseeker
            http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=24369
            Apr 16, 2011 – The Zionists have so much influence that they turned a delusional Jewish religious prophecy into “historical fact”. From History & Scriptural Origins of the Six Million Number;. [Quote 1] Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall …

            May 10, 2018 10:02 AM

            Sorry b, I think that is horseshit.

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:04 AM

            Yep b, that they have trotted out the 6 million number many times previously is another major glitch in the matrix.

            Al, I find it interesting that you seem to believe the Holocaust is beyond any questioning.

            Jews would have us believe that somehow to even engage our intelligence on the matter is an outrageous act of hatred.

            The truly outrageous thing is that Jews have used the Holocaust to put themselves above all criticism.

            May 10, 2018 10:01 AM

            Morning GH, I personally don’t fel that Jews have used the Holocaust to put themselves above all criticism.

            Trust me, Jews get plenty of criticism including from me.

            To say that the Holocaust did not happen is something that I cannot buy.

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:22 AM

            Sorry Al, but it is blatant hogwash to say that Jews do not take advantage of the Holocaust to deflect criticism. But I suppose there’s no point in arguing something that is either so obvious, or it isn’t.

            “To say that the Holocaust did not happen is something that I cannot buy.”

            Interesting that you put it into such black and white terms, Al. Why do you suppose you do that?

            Are our only two options to unquestioningly accept the Jewish version of the story or to be Deniers?

            Of course not. That’s just the way they have framed the matter, and you’ve fallen for it.

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:24 AM

            You might as well claim the term ‘anti-semitic’ is not abused to deflect criticism of Jews.

            b
            May 10, 2018 10:29 AM

            Interesting Al

            You know the Torah does not have reference to 6 million?
            odd thing for them to say if it doesnt.

            The ww 2 6 million was the 3rd time the 6 million # was referenced.

            If the 6 million # is not in the Torah I can see Birdmans work being called poop, if it is, maybe you might want to read it before calling BS or HS in your case. 😉

            I honestly dont know, I dont recall seeing it.

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:35 AM

            b, I don’t know what the Torah says r.e. the 6 million.

            But that 6 million was being bandied about well before WW2 seems irrefutable:

            Old Newspaper Says SIX MILLION JEWS Died in 1915-1938 Before Holocaust
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAnuXl5VZY

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:37 AM

            The irrational notion that it is either 6 million or nothing brings to mind an Orwell quote:

            “Crimestop: The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction.” (George Orwell, 1984)

            b
            May 10, 2018 10:50 AM

            I dont think “birdman” or the other people I posted are disputing Jews got killed.
            Some horrible things were done.
            But 6 million?

            b
            May 10, 2018 10:13 AM

            Assuming the 6 million # is in the Torah, you gotta hand it to them as to how they get people to accept it and take it as fact.

            They began trying in 1902 I believe, at least we dont have any earlier records.

            Then throw the # around for a few years 1915 – 1938 (Balfour declaration 1917)(kinda like they knew something was coming)

            And at Nuremburg state the # 6 million and who the heck is going to dispute it?

            Voila we have Israel in 1948 and all the prophecies are fullfilled.

            At least the ones to that point.

            On top of it, if you even question it, not only are you a “dickhead” but you get 3 hots and a cot for free.

            You gotta hand it to these guys, and they make it look easy too. 😉

    May 08, 2018 08:48 PM

    This article RINGS weak. Freedom!!

    May 09, 2018 09:09 AM

    Why would we give these people any consideration is beyond me………..jmo
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-09/watch-iran-lawmakers-burn-us-flag-shout-death-america

      May 09, 2018 09:10 AM

      The lawmakers, including a Shiite cleric, held the flaming flag …………Cleric lol….

      May 09, 2018 09:41 PM

      Tell that to Bob M.

    May 09, 2018 09:16 AM

    SLIM OF THE WEEK AWARD>>>>>>>>>>WELLS FARGO AND THE GOVT
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-08/why-big-banks-love-paying-fines-us-government

      May 09, 2018 09:17 AM

      Banks basically legally pay-off the government to say that everything has been resolved.

      The government is happy, they got some cash. The bank is happy, they got to keep most of their sketchy profits and continue business as usual.

      But as always, who gets screwed? The taxpayers who expect the government to be watching out for them, and the consumers who expect the banks to behave appropriately with their money

        GH
        May 09, 2018 09:47 AM

        Fines = cost of doing business ~= business licensing fee

          May 09, 2018 09:35 PM

          Fines are not paid by the BANKS, they are passed to the citizens……

            May 09, 2018 09:36 PM

            When did you receive any interest on your bank savings account, ……like 10 yrs ago……the banksters have robbed everyone blind………….

            May 10, 2018 10:07 AM

            Glad that I am doing okay. I guess that I must be pretty smart. Do I have a savings account in a bank? Of course not!

            May 10, 2018 10:08 AM

            In some ways, I agree. I personally use the banking system very seldom.

    May 09, 2018 09:25 AM

    Seattle Real Estate going south…………rent a hut………
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-07/seattle-becoming-city-hostile-middle-class

      May 09, 2018 09:43 PM

      Take it from a guy who lives in the vicinity, Seattle real estate is not currently going close to that direction.

    May 09, 2018 09:30 AM

    Best Way to Deal With Iran…….SEND them some Tesla Flame Cars……..
    Or Tesla’s New Model ….THE FLAME……
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-09/tesla-model-s-bursts-flames-after-horrific-crash-killing-two-men-trapped-inside

      May 09, 2018 09:32 AM

      I think Obama and Kerry should deliver them personally

    GH
    May 09, 2018 09:51 AM

    Rand Paul: Congress Moves to Give the President Unlimited War Powers

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/rand-paul-congress-moves-to-give-the-president-unlimited-war-powers/


    So Congress—in a very Congress way of doing things—has a “solution.” Instead of reclaiming its constitutional authority, it instead intends to codify the unacceptable, unconstitutional status quo.

    The new Kaine/Corker AUMF declares war on at least the following places and people: the Taliban, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, ISIS anywhere, al-Shabaab in Somalia and elsewhere, al-Qaeda in Syria, al-Nusra in Syria, the Haqqani network in Pakistan and Afghanistan, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, in Niger, Algeria, Libya, and Nigeria, and associated forces (as defined by the president) around the globe.

    That is simply breathtaking. Previous AUMFs have never included “associated forces,” and with good reason. Yet the Kaine/Corker AUMF not only codifies military action against those associated forces, but by conservative estimates authorizes war in over 20 nations.

    Kaine/Corker would forever allow the executive unlimited latitude in determining war, and would leave Congress debating such action after forces have already been committed.

    Under this bill, Congress could only disapprove of war, turning the Constitution on its head. Even worse, any resolution of disapproval could be vetoed, meaning two thirds of Congress would need to disapprove of a war, rather than a majority to approve of one. That’s a huge, unwise, and unconstitutional change.

    The Kaine/Corker AUMF would completely abdicate Congress’s power under Article I.

    Handing war-making power from Congress to the executive branch is not an exercise in congressional power. It is the final and full abandonment of that power. It is wrong, it is unconstitutional, and it should be stopped.
    —————

    Kaine and Corker, traitors.

      b
      May 09, 2018 09:11 AM

      Thats unreal GH.

      But is there really any change?
      The americans have been invading whoever they feel like for any reason for how long?

        May 09, 2018 09:54 AM

        About the same amount of time you “guys” up there have been holding the piss bucket for the queen?

        GH
        May 09, 2018 09:03 PM

        True, b, but still, to codify it is a concrete step in a bad direction.

        And to make it law that, practically speaking, a 2/3 majority of congress would be required to override a President’s war initiative is mind-boggling.

    b
    May 09, 2018 09:03 AM

    Im wondering if Trump reneging on the Iran deal has to do with world reserve currency change.

    An american war with Iran would help Israels position concerning Lebanon, but withdrawing from the Iran deal will cause the world to see the states arnt trustworthy.

    Not that they ever were, but the realization should cause more countries to question the dollar.

    We already have countries dropping the dollar, Erdogan just started asking why the world doesnt use gold.

    It also doesnt look like an invasion is imminent, they’ve had to reactivate the 2nd? fleet, they dont have the infantry or armour to invade Iran and the chinese have a formidable presence in the pacific now.

    The americans are stretched.

    It wouldnt do Israel any good to have the americans crushed in the middle east, that would mean going nuclear and that wouldnt do anyone any good.

    The threat of military action might be just that, a threat.

    But the consequences for the dollar?

    Maybe its done to prod dropping the dollar, dollar use has got to be minimized to move to that 1 world currency the tin hats been talkin about.

    I think I’ll bring that question up in my next meeting with the Lizard men and Hudas.

    GH
    May 09, 2018 09:16 AM

    Henry Makow says:

    “American politics today are defined by two versions of the Jew World Order,
    Zionism (nationalism) on the Right and Communism (globalism) on the Left.

    The article below is a reminder that George Soros pushed through the Iran nuclear deal much to the consternation of Benjamin Netanyahu. Trump came to his rescue. Trump announced his candidacy in June 2015, just as Iran was being finalized. The only reason Americans got an alternative to Clinton was due to this schism in World Jewry between Communists and Zionists. The Communists, led by George Soros, and fronted by Obama and Clinton, represent the disintegration of the nation-state, including Israel. The nationalists led by Netanyahu and fronted by Trump represents a handful of powerful nation-states dominated by Israel. This is a disagreement between Masonic lodges. In Trump, Americans are getting the crumbs from Israel’s table.”

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2018/05/iran-deal-illuminati-zionism.html

    May 09, 2018 09:39 AM
      May 10, 2018 10:15 AM

      Student debt……is the stupidest of all……

      May 09, 2018 09:01 PM

      EBO………send Nitty a check……..he needs another bomb…… 🙂

    GH
    May 10, 2018 10:25 AM

    Will Trump let Jonny Pollard go to Israel?

    https://www.jta.org/2018/05/01/news-opinion/reports-trump-considering-allowing-pollard-come-israel-embassy-dedication

    This man should have remained in prison until his death.

      GH
      May 10, 2018 10:35 AM

      Actually, he should have been executed.

      http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-truth-of-jonathan-pollard/

      “he has been granted citizenship by the Knesset and has both a town square and a residential building in Jerusalem named after him. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has declared an unofficial holiday in his honor and there will no doubt be a victory parade, as he is regarded as a hero by most Israelis.”

      “Those who are calling for Pollard’s freeing from probation both in Israel and among Israel’s friends in the U.S. should look to the example of how Israel has itself treated Mordechai Vanunu, who revealed the existence of Israel’s nuclear arsenal in 1986. He was drugged and kidnapped, convicted in a secret trial, and spent 18 years in prison, 11 of which were in solitary confinement. Since his release in 2004, he has not been allowed to leave Israel or speak to journalists and has been re-arrested a number of times.”

      “Over the years since Pollard was sentenced I have had the good fortune to speak to several former senior intelligence officials who were involved in doing the damage assessment of what the Israeli spy exposed. They were sworn to secrecy on the details of what actually occurred but were able to make some general comments. They agreed on several points, namely that Pollard was the most damaging spy bar none since the Rosenberg espionage ring betrayed U.S. nuclear secrets to the Soviets in the 1940s…”

        GH
        May 10, 2018 10:41 AM

        Declassified Statement on Jonathan Pollard by Caspar W. Weinberger

        http://original.antiwar.com/weinberger/2010/10/17/caspar-w-weinberger-jonathan-pollard/

        “It is difficult for me…to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by the defendant in view of the breadth, the critical importance to the U.S., and the high sensitivity of the information he sold to Israel. That information was intentionally reserved by the United States for its own use, because to disclose it, to anyone or any nation, would cause the greatest harm to our national security.”

          b
          May 10, 2018 10:40 AM

          Is Caspar W. Weinberger correct?

          How can people say they have their own country when they dont lead it or make decisions concerning it?

          Americans can decide such things as where to put a crosswalk, but as to where the army goes, who is an enemy, where their children will die and what for?
          Americans dont decide that, and who knows what else is decided for them.

          So, can it be said they have their own country?

            GH
            May 10, 2018 10:26 AM

            Fair enough, but if one wants to split hairs that way then virtually no one ‘has their own country’. That is the point of the NWO, after all–no national sovereignty.

            b
            May 10, 2018 10:36 PM

            I agree.